Re: Note to Sharon


"Jason" <jason@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:jason-1707051100460001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> In article <d3hCe.2656$dX5.1267@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Bill"
> <xxx@xxxxx> wrote:
>
>> "Jason" <jason@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:jason-1607051006350001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > In article <s6ydnTcWIdvTEEXfRVn-1w@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Sharon Hope"
>> > <shope@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bill,
>> >>
>> >> Just because you say something, that does not make it so.
>> >>
>> >> Twist all you want, but "the question at hand was" NOT what you claimed,
>> >> it
>> >> was:
>> >>
>> >> " the interesting information about the articles that appear in
>> >> medical journals. I believe that JAMA (in the post) admitted that biased
>> >> articles have appeared in their journal. "
>> >>
>> >> Anyone, even you, can go to the OP and do a "find" for the letters
>> >> "statin"
>> >> and find that the word did not exist in the OP.
>> >>
>> >> Not "statin" not "adverse effects of statins", such as Lipitor (aka
>> >> Atorvastatin), Lescol (aka
>> >> fluvastatin), Mevacor (aka lovastatin), Pravachol (aka pravastatin),
>> >> Zocor
>> >> (aka simvastatin), Crestor (aka rosuvastatin), and Baycol (aka
>> >> cerivastatin).
>> >>
>> >> The question was about the JAMA journal edition dedicated to the concern
>> >> that the juried selection system had become tainted and resulted in
>> >> bias.
>> >> As you know the BJM also did its own edition on bias within a similar
>> >> timeframe.
>> >>
>> >> The answer took some initial research, which had been archived in the
>> >> FAQ
>> >> on
>> >> Statin Adverse Effects, so rather than recreate the research, I simply
>> >> quoted that portion of the now over 80 page FAQ, the full text of which
>> >> can
>> >> be seen at:
>> >> http://www.freewebs.com/stopped_our_statins/StatinFAQ_031305wTOCv4.pdf
>> >>
>> >> Yes, the OP referred to memory loss, which you know from prior posts by
>> >> Jason was caused by statin adverse effects, and yes, the question was
>> >> asked
>> >> of me, the wife of a man whose muscles, mitochondrial respiration,
>> >> cognition, memory loss, amnesia, peripheral neuropathy, fatigue and
>> >> chronic
>> >> pain are due to statin adverse effects, but that was NOT in the OP
>> >> question.
>> >>
>> >> As to your claim of finding an article that conflicts with the premise,
>> >> I
>> >> would suggest you follow this procedure:
>> >>
>> >> 1) Supply the full citation, including date and journal that published
>> >> the
>> >> article
>> >> 2) Verify if either the BJM or a JAMA journal was the publisher
>> >> 3) Check the date of publication against the date of the "mea culpa, yes
>> >> we
>> >> have determined we have been publishing with bias, but we promise to sin
>> >> no
>> >> more" journal editions
>> >>
>> >> Then, if and only if, that one article was published by one of those
>> >> journals, PRIOR to their promise to not simply publish pharmco spin, you
>> >> have an excellent point and you should present it.
>> >>
>> >> If not, oh well.
>> >>
>> >> And if you still disagree with the premise, be sure to send your
>> >> concerns
>> >> to
>> >> their editorial boards, as these were their messages, I am simply
>> >> calling
>> >> attention to them.
>> >>
>> >> BTW, the data on the journal dates was in the statin adverse effects
>> >> FAQ,
>> >> but the journal articles were talking about all pharmco bias and
>> >> positive
>> >> spin, not statins specifically.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sharon,
>> > Thanks for your posts related to my original note to you. I agree with
>> > everything you stated in your posts related to the note. I had to laugh
>> > when I saw the statement "I don't know what you are talking about".
>>
>> Your ridicule of me will be remembered especially when I tried greatly
> to help
>> you originally. Recall you pleading with me to not abandon you. And my
>> advice
>> to you that it was a roll of the dice which lead you to a decision.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> >It's
>> > obvious that the person did not read all of the information from previous
>> > posts that you included with your most recent posts.
>> > Thanks again and I hope your husband is getting better.
>> > I believe that I may have Hyperkalemia and problems with adrenal glands
>> > since they are not producing enough of a hormone called aldosterone. I'm
>> > going to try to get a new doctor next week since my present doctor does
>> > not want to arrange for me to get the tests that I need.
>> > Jason
>
>
> Sharon,
> When I mentioned the "I had to laugh when I saw the statement "I don't
> know what you are talking about" was in reference to what someone else
> wrote in their posts and NOT what you stated in your posts. I am sorry
> that I did not explain myself in a much better way. I have utmost respect
> for you and I greatly appreciate your help that you have to provided to me
> and other people.
> Jason
>
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It was I who wrote to you, not Sharon. You mock your own motto.

Bill


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