Re: statins don't reduce dementia risk

In article <jF0De.7908$NU2.6957@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
<Hawki63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> "Jason" <jason@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:jason-1807052001240001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > In article <1121725445.819477.48260@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "zee"
> > <outrider@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Bill wrote:
> >> > "Jason" <jason@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> > news:jason-1807050827420001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > In article <E1KCe.387$lX2.35@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Bill"
> >> > > <xxx@xxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> "Jason" <jason@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:jason-1707052206010001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> > In article <PRCCe.232$IG2.180@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Bill"
> >> > >> > <xxx@xxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> "Jason" <jason@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> > >> >> news:jason-1707051656440001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> >> > In article <NHBCe.196$IG2.69@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> >> > >> >> > "Bill"
> >> > >> >> > <xxx@xxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> "Jason" <jason@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> > >> >> >> news:jason-1707051055150001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >> >> >> >> Sharon,
> >> > >> >> >> > I might have missed it but how many months did it take
> >> > >> >> >> > before you
> >> > >> >> >> > noticed
> >> > >> >> >> > any signs of improvement in your husband's mental abilities?
> >> > >> >> >> > I have NOT noticed hardly any improvements in relation to
> > my memory
> >> > >> >> >> > problems. Sarah told me yesterday that I left the storage
> >> > >> >> >> > shed
> >> > >> >> >> > unlocked.
> >> > >> >> >> > Last week, I left my car unlocked in a grocery store
> > parking lot. I
> >> > >> >> >> > never
> >> > >> >> >> > done these sorts of things until the past several months. My
> >> > >> >> >> > problems
> >> > >> >> >> > do
> >> > >> >> >> > NOT seem to be improving.
> >> > >> >> >> > One other question: Have you seen any studies indicating
> >> > >> >> >> > that
> >> > >> >> >> > statins
> >> > >> >> >> > can
> >> > >> >> >> > cause the adrenal glands to NOT to work properly?
> >> > >> >> >> > Jason
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> > --
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> >> > >> >> >> > people.
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> I thought your memory problems started well before you left
> > your job
> >> > >> >> >> and
> >> > >> >> >> you
> >> > >> >> >> started taking statins after you left your job.
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> Bill
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Bill,
> >> > >> >> > I was taking statins while I was still working. My memory
> >> > >> >> > problems
> >> > >> >> > started
> >> > >> >> > shortly after I started taking statins. I have not noticed any
> >> > >> >> > improvements since I stopped taking statins. I still do stupid
> > things
> >> > >> >> > such
> >> > >> >> > as not remembering the names of close friends and forgetting to
> >> > >> >> > lock
> >> > >> >> > my
> >> > >> >> > car. I am hoping that the improvements take place during the
> >> > >> >> > next
> >> > >> >> > several
> >> > >> >> > months so that I will be able to get another job after my sick
> >> > >> >> > leave
> >> > >> >> > credits have run out. I will be getting full retirement
> >> > >> >> > benefits so
> >> > >> >> > the
> >> > >> >> > salary of the new job is not very important. I'm just getting
> >> > >> >> > bored
> >> > >> >> > with
> >> > >> >> > not much to do. I'm getting on Sarah's nerves.
> >> > >> >> > Jason
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> You left your job several months ago and the problems started
> >> > >> >> well
> >> > >> >> before
> >> > >> >> the
> >> > >> >> day you left - having to do with a periodic test you have to
> >> > >> >> take. You
> >> > >> > got off
> >> > >> >> of statins 6 weeks ago and were on for 3 months. Is that not
> >> > >> >> correct?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Due to my memory problems, I can only guess at these sorts of
> >> > >> > issues.
> >> > >> > Sarah and I talked about this subject last week and she said that
> >> > >> > was
> >> > >> > wrong about when I stopped working and stopped taking statins. I
> > seem to
> >> > >> > recall that I started taking statins about 3 months before I had
> > to stop
> >> > >> > working due to memory problems. I found out as a result of this
> > newgroup
> >> > >> > that statins caused memory problems so I stop taking them. I don't
> >> > >> > remember the exact date that I stopped working or stopped taking
> > statins.
> >> > >> > I probably have that sort of information in my records but they
> >> > >> > are
> >> > >> > poorly
> >> > >> > organized.
> >> > >> > Jason
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> > >> You have repeatedly said you were on statins for only 3 months. You
> >> > >> have
> >> > >> also
> >> > >> said that the memory problems were going on for a while. And you
> > have also
> >> > >> said that you left your job several months ago. I think something
> >> > >> else is
> >> > >> going on here. Why could it not be that your problems are due to
> > something
> >> > >> other than statins if you do not know the dates and you have been
> >> > >> very
> >> > >> inconsistent?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Could it not be true that you started the statins after you left
> > your job?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Bill
> >> > >
> >> > > Bill,
> >> > > I do recall that I was taking statins several weeks before I took
> >> > > what is
> >> > > referred to as an IST (In Service Training) class. I took some notes
> >> > > in
> >> > > much the same way that I took notes in college classes. However, when
> >> > > the
> >> > > test was given, it was like I had not even been in the room. I could
> >> > > not
> >> > > recall the teacher even mentioning some of the items that were on the
> >> > > test. I barely passed due to the notes that all students were allowed
> >> > > to
> >> > > refer to when they took the test. Without those notes, I would have
> >> > > failed. It was at that time that I realized that was having a serious
> >> > > problem with my memory. I done some research and was of the opinion
> >> > > (at
> >> > > that time) that I had Dementia (I am 54 years old). I continued to
> >> > > take
> >> > > statins but realized that I needed to stop working since I had an
> >> > > important job and I would probably fail some future classes were note
> >> > > taking was not allowed. Since I had a year of sick leave credits, I
> >> > > had
> >> > > working and will retire after the sick leave credits run out. Full
> >> > > retirement benefits kick in when employees are 55 years old. I'll be
> >> > > 55
> >> > > before the sick time credits are used up. I stop taking statins
> >> > > several
> >> > > weeks after I found out that statins were the reason for my memory
> >> > > and
> >> > > muscle related problems. I seem to recall that it was a couple of
> >> > > months
> >> > > after I stopped working.
> >> > > Jason
> >> > >
> >> > > --
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> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > You have said you were on statins for 3 months several times. I don't
> >> > think
> >> > you can trust your memory for anything. Your problem may well have
> >> > started
> >> > before statins.
> >> >
> >> > One thing is clear. You do have severe mental problems and need to see
> >> > a
> >> > psychiatrist to help you out what ever the cause.
> >> >
> >> > Bill
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >> Please don't do this.
> >>
> >> Seeing a psychiatrist, psychologist or counselling social worker may
> >> help to cope with the devastation caused to one's life, family, career
> >> by statin injury, but it won't cure any disease, because our disease is
> >> not psychological. Our disease is toxicity from a drug we took. We who
> >> have been affected this way begin our recovery when we remove the
> >> offending agent, but there can be lingering confusions, for us and
> >> those around us.
> >>
> >> What you are doing is not helpful.
> >>
> >> Please stop. But please stay.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Zee
> >
> > Zee,
> > I am NOT going to see a psychiatrist related to memory problems because I
> > know that it would not help. If Sarah does leave me and I start getting
> > depressed--I might see a regular counselor. I would never start taking
> > Prozac or any similar drug since I believe such drugs can cause more
> > problems (including side effects) than they solve. I once worked with
> > someone that took Prozac and she told me that it made her sleepy all day
> > even if she had a full night's sleep. I am just hoping that the memory
> > problems clear up after a couple of months. Have your memory problems
> > cleared up any at all?
> > Do you know anything about blood test results
>
> Jason...
>
> why are you asking Zee about blood test results???
>
> please see you physician with your concerns...and not depend upon this
> ng..esp the non professionals to confuse you...

Hawki,
I am going to my doctor next week to discuss the latest blood test.
Zee and I have a similar problem and I respect her advice.
I am intelligent enough to figure out the difference between
good advice and bad advice. Most of us even do it when doctors
or subscribers give us bad advice. I'm sure that if I told
you to travel to England to see a specialist that you would
not buy a plane ticket.
Jason

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