Re: Building New Worlds - An OT Parable

Don Kirkman wrote:
>
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <42EACE85.637A3AE1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> >Don Kirkman wrote:
>
> >> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> >> article <42E9FCCF.E5210913@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> >> >Don Kirkman wrote:
>
> >> >> In "The Fifty Minute Hour" [ISBN 1892746247] psychiatrist Robert Lindner
> >> >> years ago presented popularized versions of five cases he dealt with
> >> >> while working for a state agency.* In one case, a young man was
> >> >> exploring new worlds, dreaming of galaxies far away, and designing space
> >> >> craft to reach them--well before Star Trek, Star Wars, and Lost in Space
> >> >> were dreamed of (War of the Worlds, A Princess of Mars, and Flash Gordon
> >> >> were around, however). One by one Lindner tried various psychiatric
> >> >> techniques he hoped might bring the man back to a semblance of reality,
> >> >> but none of the textbook approaches worked. Finally, he decided to try
> >> >> joining the patient in his world. Lindner began feigning belief in the
> >> >> foreign galaxies and the astrophysical scheme that lay in the patient's
> >> >> mind and drawings. Progress was slow but noticeable, and the therapist
> >> >> noticed that as he showed more interest in these new worlds the patient
> >> >> slowly disengaged himself from some of the more emotionally charged
> >> >> areas of the phantom universe. Finally, the critical break came when
> >> >> the patient disavowed the entire subject and returned to the real world.
> >> >> Lindner, however, found that he had moved from feigned interest to a
> >> >> very real attachment to the affairs of the patient's constructed world,
> >> >> and had to struggle to tear himself away from it.
>
> [. . .]
>
> >> >> Any volunteers to explore a new world that lies beyond the bonds of
> >> >> physics and astronomy and exists only in a human mind?
>
> >> >I'll pass.
>
> >> >It remains my choice to stick with the truth.
>
> >> Following Jesus' example, I offered a parable, not a prescription.
>
> And I continued the paragraph to say " Jesus always threw the onus back
> upon the listener to ponder and work out the moral issue for himself.
> Caveat lector! :-)"
>
> >Actually, you posted a case report and then asked for volunteers to
> >venture in the darkness of fiction.
>
> If you consider what I wrote a "case report" it may be just as well
> you're not practicing actively. :-) It was a very brief summary of one
> psychiatrist's experience in trying to pry one deluded individual loose
> from his mania. He did it by edging into the world of delusion and
> forcing the patient out into the real world.
>
> >I answered the question truthfully as was my choice. Neither your post
> >nor your response followed Lord Jesus' example.
>
> Did I say "I'll pass" was an untruth?
>
> Which of Jesus' examples have I run afoul of? Post a few citations so I
> can explain them to you.
>
> >This reminds me of the following real parable:
>
> >"Suppose there was a man born blind who had never seen the light of day.
> >After coveting the vision of the seeing, does this man not end up living
> >in darkness, because in the darkness he surpasses the seeing in ability
> >to navigate around in his surroundings? And when he happens upon the
> >seeing who are lost in the darkness, he will happily declare that vision
> >does not exist in his world. In the same way, those who are unable to
> >discern the truth would declare their victory over those who can."
>
> Sorry, parables are not real, they are fictional teaching devices. And
> the language of this one tells me it is not original with you. It has
> all the earmarks of the cute little heart-warming [ah, back on topic to
> cardiology!] illustrations many preachers use in their homilies.
>
> [. . .]
>
> >You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
> >others who have been using this WOE here:
>
> WOE is them!
>
> >http://www.TheHealthFair.com
>
> Once you get a few of those $30,000 honoraria for showing up at these
> fairs and wowing the rubes you'll have enough money to set up your very
> own syndicated Infomercial series on nighttime cable. Those guys are
> rolling in the loot, and you could join them and give them a run for
> their money.

It seems you grow more bitter with each post.

Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.

You will remain in my prayers, dear Don, whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp

You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
others who have been using this WOE here:

http://www.TheHealthFair.com

You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about
the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's
fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to
TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally
from the 2PD-OMER Approach):

http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

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