Re: Cognitive problems with simvastatin?
- From: "Sharon Hope" <shope@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 16:07:57 -0700
"Robert" <Robertitsme@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> <mmlevy46@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> listener wrote:
>> > "Sharon Hope" <shope@xxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> > news:_eCdnaQtrpJi_4feRVn-1w@xxxxxxxxxxx:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > "listener" <listener@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > > news:Xns96C697293EC2Esome1outthere@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >> "Sharon Hope" <shope@xxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> > >> news:0-mdnX3d4pH-fYTeRVn-2A@xxxxxxxxxxx:
>> > >>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> If you *really* want to help others you would consider sharing
>> > >>>> some
>> > >>>> of this invaluable documneted information you are sitting on.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Which is exactly what we have done with the researchers producing
>> > >>> the studies, and the medical the authors of the books studying
>> > >>> statin adverse effects. We have shared generalities, backed by
>> > >>> doctors' concurrence with the Wall St. Journal's Smart Money
>> > >>> Magazine and the Los Angeles Times.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> People who are qualified to make use of the information to help
>> > >>> others.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >> I'll try this one more time:
>> > >>
>> > >> You must have, in your possession, copies of documentation that
>> > >> clearly state that statins, in particular, are the direct and
>> > >> definitve cause of your husbands disability. You have discussed his
>> > >> condition, his diagnoses and his team of doctors many, many times as
>> > >> proof of your proposition that statins are dangerous (or certainly
>> > >> more dangerous than any of us are aware of or admit). It is now
>> > >> time,
>> > >> after all these years and all the news reports, and the lengthy
>> > >> statin AE FAQ you put together for you to go beyond merely *stating*
>> > >> what you may have come to know as true but to *share* with *us* the
>> > >> actual documented facts of the case (i.e. scanned, redacted
>> > >> documents).
>> > >>
>> > >> It's really a simple request and I do not understand why you are
>> > >> balking. You're credibility is at stake.
>> > >
>> > > LOL. Call 40 or 50 attorneys and aks them if it is advisable to
>> > > publish personal medical records.
>> > >
>> > > Get back to us with their replies. YOUR credibility is at stake.
>> >
>> > I called some attorney relatives. No problem, as long as they are
>> > carefully redacted.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > BTW, it has been several months since you were to get back to us on
>> > > the research on statins and ED. Where is it?
>> >
>> > Ah, the ole switcheroo...nice try.
>> >
>> >
>> > So here's the bottom line: you've been making specific claims anout
>> > your
>> > husbands disability for years and you refuse to supply your own
>> > documented evidence to back up those claims. (Note: I am not saying or
>> > implying that he does *not* suffer from a disability..). With 50+
> doctors
>> > and a myriad of tests, surely there's *something" you can scan and
>> > supply? But you refuse, which is your right. So be it.
>> >
>> > Your credibility: 0.
>> >
>> >
>> > L.
>> All of you badgering Sharon continue to miss the real focus of her
>> postings--have you any suggestions that would help her and or her
>> husband?
>
> If you tell me what the diagnosis was when she saw all those doctors then
> yes. The problem is she doesn't want that kind of help. She is not here
> for
> help. She is here to warn people who discusee their personal medical
> information something she refuses to do.
> There was a poster who discussed the spinal stenosis she was diagnosed
> with.
> That is something very personal and medically specific. She was badgered
> by
> your friends.
>
> If not, what in the world is wrong with her efforts to warn
>> everyone who reads this board about the possible adverse effects of
>> statins?
>
> There is no warning but diagnosing by them based on specific medical
> information presented by the posters.
> If they present any symptoms what so ever and are on statins then they
> cogently slam their diagnosis on them EVEN when a definitive diagnosis not
> involving statins has been made. They still insist on the statins did it.
> Those are not warnings.
>
> A warning is if you are taking statins then you need to watch out for XY
> and
> Z.
Excuse me? I have published a set of PUBLISHED references on Statin Adverse
Effects to watch out for that is currently EIGHTY SIX PAGES in length,
available at:
http://www.freewebs.com/stopped_our_statins/StatinFAQ_031305wTOCv4.pdf
This is a set of PUBLISHED MEDICAL STUDIES on adverse effects.
This research was done to help others avoid PREVENTABLE disability from
statin adverse effects by watching for these adverse effects and recognizing
them as such. It was also done in the course of a search for treatment and
prognosis for full recovery.
That many physicians are unaware of these adverse effects, even those listed
on the Lipitor PI, is common knowledge, and obvious by the numerous queries
of people who describe exactly those effects upon starting a satin, yet
relating that their doctors tell them it could not be related.
>
> continuing to insist upon laboratory data from her husband's
>> medical records is just a method you have hit upon to further what
>> appears to me to be destructive actions against her. You diminish
>> youselves in this endeavor. I have not read many older topics due to
>> lack of time, but I sense from recent ones, that many of you are really
>> good people.
>> madelyn
>> >
>>
>
> So when they Sharon and Zee request or demand that a lab test like CK be
> performed or ask for the result itself then they are out of line because
> they asked for a lab result?
>
> I would suggest you have a double standard.
>
>
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