Re: Pravochol versus Lipitor Price

Who are you and what have you done with Robert?



Robert wrote:
> "Bill" <xxx@xxxxx> wrote in message
> news:WhnUe.2203$jE2.280@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > "Darrel" <dfland~NOT_ME~@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:psr3i1lua9agk4857j360d8gaguej75alc@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > On 9 Sep 2005 08:05:18 -0700, fresh~horses@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >
> > >>Darrel
> > >>
> > >>This is an 86 page PDF with primarily medical journal and PUBMED
> > >>citations for STATINS adverse effects, including myopathy, myositis,
> > >>rhabdomyolysis, memory loss, pancreatitis, ocular and vision
> > >>disorders...etc. Take the PMID number and search PUBMED to read:
> > >>http://www.freewebs.com/stoppe d_our_statins/StatinFAQ_031305
> > >>wTOCv4.pdf
> > >>http://www.pubmed.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Muscle problems on statins:
> > >>http://www.impostertrial.com
> > >>http://www.impostertrial.com/physician.htm
> > >>(Is Myopathy Part of Statin Therapy?)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Women, primary prevention and statins
> > >>http://www.ti.ubc.ca/pages/letter48.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Women and Statins Overview
> >
> >>http://www.medicalconsumers.org/pages/AlmostEverythingYouNeedtoKnowAboutSt
> atinDrugs.html
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Women and statins: JAMA
> > >>Do cholesterol lowering drugs benefit women?
> >
> >>http://www.medicalconsumers.org/pages/WomenandCholesterol-LoweringDrugs.ht
> ml
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Dr. Beatrice Golomb, P.I. UCSD Statin Study
> > >>statinstudy@xxxxxxxx
> > >>http://medicine.ucsd.edu/SES/index.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Memory problems on statins
> > >>USAF Flight surgeon and fomer astronaut Duane Graveline on his
> > >>experiences with memory loss and transient global amnesia from statins;
> > >>plus stories of others experiences of statin induced memory loss,
> > >>transient globabl amnesia and muscle problems:
> > >>http://www.spacedoc.net
> > >
> > > Ok, thanks for all the additional info to put in my memory bank. I've
> > > been reading til I'm blue in the face. I wish I knew 5 1/2 years ago
> > > what I know now. No way in hell would I have allowed her to be started
> > > on Lipitor. It might not kill her but it could end up killing me and
> > > right now I don't have any health problems at 73 years old.
> > > She survived a cardiac arrest in 1985 when they gave her a 0% chance
> > > of making it, but she did, then again in 1988 when her liver, lungs
> > > and thyroid begin failing at the same time from amioderone, she was on
> > > deaths doorstep again but made it through that. Through all that she
> > > was at least able up until she started Lipitor able to go out and walk
> > > a block with me and walk to the mailbox etc. but now she has a hard
> > > time making it to the end of the driveway which is 20 feet.
> > > I ask the Dr about stopping Lipitor because of the problems and the Dr
> > > says she doesn't want to because of the heart protection.
> > > For christ sake, she's made it this far, why subject her to more pain.
> > > I could ramble on for an hour but won't bore you any more.
> > >
> > > Darrel
> > >
> >
> > You might ask your Dr. about your wife going off of statins for a month or
> so
> > to see if her symptoms improve. Sometimes statins can cause muscle
> problems
> > but certainly there are many other things that can do that too -
> especially in
> > older people. You might also ask if something called a CK blood test would
> be
> > appropriate. A couple of other suggestions you might ask your Dr. about -
> > taking fish oil capsules (nothing to do with statins) unless you eat a lot
> of
> > fish and taking CoQ10 capsules if you stick with the statins. (Statins
> deplete
> > this.)
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
> I would tend to think that statins are more for young people. The elderly
> have a very fine line of balance when it comes to physiology. It does not
> take much to disturb that very fine balance. They suffer the most because of
> multiple drug interactions and hospital admissions. I think the quality of
> life is more important at that age as one can not live forever. There needs
> to be very strong evidence that statins help in that quality of life at that
> age.

.

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