Re: Outcomes in 45 patients with statin-associated myopathy

In article <pN-dnT4oRZvCGjre4p2dnA@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Sharon Hope"
<shope@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> You completely, and pitifully miss the entire point. Please stop pretending
> otherwise.
>
> "Robert" <Robertsononlin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OeCdnfP1MbEYpDvenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > "Sharon Hope" <shope@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:g-edncBd7sGwtTvenZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> What you don't seem to "get" is that those who have statin damage have
> >> severe disabling potentially life-threatening damage. It is 100% for
> > those
> >> people.
> >
> > I am referring to diagnostic probability. Of 437 patients with possible
> > statin muscle problems only 45 were proven.
>
> So what? That is more than 10%. For those 45 people, it does not matter
> one whit how many others are suffering the same fate.
>
> Repeat: TEN PERCENT
>
> For the others, it was not DIS-proven, it only meant that the doctors did
> not keep records adequately enough to support the trial.
>
> > It is important people know that. I have never said that patients don't
> > experience damage.
>
> So what?
>
> > Car accidents in which people are damaged and die occur often and it
> > hasn't
> > stopped people from driving.
> > Here is the warning:
> > If you drive a car you may die.
> > If you take a statin you may die.
> > If you get out of bed you may die.
> > If you go to sleep you may die in your sleep.
> >
> > All of these do in fact happen and when it happens to you it can be very
> > damaging.
> >
>
> Completely and totally off topic, non sequitor, irrelevant. So what?
>
>
> >>
> >> Your numbers may make you feel better. (and it is very sad that you feel
> >> better by pointing them out - denial?)
> >
> > Those are the facts in evaluating any diagnostic possibilities and
> > probabilities. If you want to deal in fear then that's another story.
> > Don't take that statin because you are afraid as hell about dying.
> > Don't drive that car or cross that street. People deal in probabilities
> > and
> > not in absolutes.
> >
> Ridiculous straw dogs - not worthy of comment.
>
> People deal with REALITY.
>
> TEN PERCENT of these people suffered grave muscle damage - the kind of
> damage that the ACC, AHA, and NIH NHLBI jointly warned about.
>
> The mean time before onset of symptoms was only SIX MONTHS (6.3 actually)
> of TREATMENT - this for a drug that is intended to be prescribed for the
> duration of the patient's life!
>
> REALITY, not pseudo-theoretical unsubstantiated mundane comparisons.
>
> REALITY.
>
> >

Sharon,
Excellent post. I agreed with EVERY word you wrote.
Thank goodness that I am not the only person that has compassion
for the ten percent of people that developed SERIOUS problems
as a result of taking statin pills.
I hope that the members of your family and yourself have a
Merry Christmas.
Jason

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