Re: Thiamin Deficiency Common In Hospitalized Heart Failure Patients

Robert wrote:
> "just Ed" <just_ed53spam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > Robert wrote:
> > > "Dan" <dgillila@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > > Among patients hospitalized with heart failure, about one in three has
> > > > deficient levels of thiamin, although thiamin deficiency was less
> > > > common among those patients who were taking vitamin supplements,
> > > > according to a new study in the Jan. 17, 2006, issue of the Journal of
> > > > the American College of Cardiology.
> > > >
> > > >
> http://debunkbigpharma.blognation.us/blog/_archives/2006/1/15/1676293.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thank God for big pharm supplements, vitamins when people should just
> eat
> > > right.
> >
> >
> > Cite please.
> >
>
> Cite what? That people need to eat a well balanced diet with all the
> essential nutrients or that people are making money off of vitamins and
> supplements?


Show citation(s) that CHF patients' thiamin deficiency is
reversed or prevented through 'eating right'.

PMID: 10809999, shows that the stored thiamin in these folks
is not reduced. "This change is most likely not an expression of a
thiamine deficiency, but rather of an altered metabolism of thiamine,
which is not understood at present." Adequate thiamin there, but it
wasn't making it to the active form.

PMID: 10482308 verified that furosemide increases urinary thiamin loss.


PMID: 12845243 studied dietary intake of a group of these folks, said
thiamin level was below recommended levels. That doesn't say that
'eating right' would have made enough difference to matter. You seem
to know that it will.

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