Re: Saved By The Blood Of Jesus

Don Kirkman wrote:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <440D4E3C.D70DCBD0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

John wrote:

On 6 Mar 2006 10:09:14 -0800, "Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
R. Pierce Butler wrote:

It is really odd that certain people seem to believe that they have some
really magic powers due to their faith.

Such is the illusion of self-worship.

Yes, the trap of believing in magic powers due to one's faith is indeed
illusional and implies self-worship.

The fact of the matter is they
have no more power than anyone else but they don't want to hear it.

Such is the trap of self-worship.

Yes, not wanting to hear that one is merely human is a trap and implies
self-worship.

Atheists don't worship anything, you quack.

That is not what I discern. Those who are secure in the truth also
have the strength to resist the temptation of descending into
namecalling.

Telling an atheist they worship themselves IS name calling. You lobbed
the first grenade.

Get a dictionary.

Already have one to use as needed. Not needed here, however.

If you think atheists worship anything then you need a dictionary.
Atheism is about a LACK of worship of any kind.

I see. Then there aren't any atheists under this definition.

Except for possibly Buddhists:

"Nothingness is form."

The preceding line in the Heart Sutra is "Form is nothingness," so
you've only given half of the truth the Sutra teaches. Buddhism's
enlightenment lies both within and beyond formality and structure.
Moreover, your quote says nothing about whether or not Buddhists
worship. Traditional Buddhism has no god to worship as such; it has
appearances of enlightened beings during the endless cycle of
incarnations and changes.

And ISTM many animistic religions such as Shinto do not worship but
perform rituals symbolizing and acknowledging their place in nature;
regard for the phenomena of nature and a desire to live in harmony with
nature is not worship in the usual sense. Reverence for nature is not
worship of nature.

The latter would depend on what is in a person's heart. Only the LORD
can look into someone's heart and judge.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory,
cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here
during the next on-line chat (03/09/06) from 6 to 7 pm EST:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8


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