Re: Cholesterol Drug Reverses Heart Disease

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In article <1142389572.578960.112680@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Tony
Wesley" <tonywesley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jason wrote:
We both know those people that already have kidney problems may
develop
even more medical problems as a result of taking statins.

Yes

Studies like the
one mentioned above will cause even more doctors to prescibe
statins
to
patients--even if they have liver and kidney problems. Do you
agree
or
disagree?

I'll disagree. If you and I are aware of the AE of statins,
hopefully
medical professionals are as well.

Some are aware of the problems and some are not aware of the
problems.
I know of at least two local family practice doctors that
prescribed
statins to patients without first having a blood tests related to
kidney
fuction and liver function (eg creatine levels).

so you live in an area where stupid doctors practice...so WHAT????

BTW....the test is for CREATININE.....totally different than CREATINE

you need to copy more accurately from your "books" Jason...since you
apparently have little medical knowledge

sorry about that--I should have checked the spelling--I have had lots
of
problems with spelling as a result of statin related memory problems--
You would not believe how many times I have lost my car keys or had a
hard
time remembering where I parked the car. The only good thing is the
exercise I have gotten as a result of walking around parking lots in
search of my car.


You are using the argument that if event B followed event A then A
caused
B.
That is not necessarily so. Also, I believe you were on a high dose of
red
yeast rice so you could also say that caused the problem.

In any case, it would be wise to not assume you know the cause of the
problem
but rather have it checked out. Could be something different.

Do you have one of those cars with an alarm systems and a device that
will
beep to help you find the car? If so, do you know the trick to increase
its
range?

Bill

Bill,
Yes, I have one of those cars but the feature only words (at least on my
car) when you are within about 20 yards of the car.

Try putting the transmitter up under your chin while pressing the button.
You
may get slightly better range because your body acts as an antenna. Try to
look in the general direction your car might be.


Regarding the
statins--I was taking Red Yeast Rice and the statin pills at the same
time. However, the dosage level for the statin was only (Provachol 20
mg--one pill per day). I was only taking one Red Yeast Rice capsule per
day. Many people take 40 mg statin pills or even 80 mg statin pills--they
are taking a much higher dose of statins than I was taking. Even when I
cut back to one half of a pill (10 mg) per day and no Red Yeast Rice
capsules--I continued to have high creatinine levels.

This makes it less likely that statins of the past are now causing what
ever
problems you now have. But to the degree they do, the red yeast rice is
also
as likely a suspect. In fact the two in combination may have made things
worse.

Bill

Bill,
Which is a higher dose of statins
one 20 mg Lovastatin (Mecacor) pill plus one Red Yeast Rice Capsule

or

One 80 mg Lovastatin pill

I should note that "a daily dose of red yeast rice contains about 5 mg of
lovastastin." source Dr. Cohen's statin book (page 103).

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I'll let you figure that out. But I thought you were taking the RYR in raw
form.

Bill

Bill,
I don't know what was inside the RYR capsules that I purchased at the
local health food store. It's possible that it was the raw form. I doubt
that most people that take 80 mg statin pills realize that those pills are
more likely to cause side effects than the 20 mg statin pills.
Jason

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