Re: Statin Myopathy - Cmax or AUC



On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:43:18 -0700, Jason@xxxxxxxxxx (Jason) wrote:

In article <d4sp33lvg9cnpqcjk69e6f80fvms4nocmj@xxxxxxx>, jay1000
<jfschonSpamguarD@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I have developed myopathy on just about every statin except Lescol,
the statin of last resort, according to Jay Cohen's book. So next
visit I will ask my doctor about giving Lescol a try.

In checking out Lescol, I discovered they have regular 20, 40 & 80 mg
capsules plus an 80 mg controlled release tablet. So my first thought
was try the 20 mg - it should have minimum potential for causing
myopathy. But in looking over the Lescol data I spotted two variables
of interest. First is C sub max, the maximum plasma concentration of
fluvastatin. Second is AUC, the area under the concentration versus
time curve.

With 20 mg dose C sub max is ~170 and AUC ~200
With 80 mg extended release C sub max is ~100 and AUC ~650

AUC should theoretically correlate with cholesterol reduction.

Question is which variable should best correlate myopathy? There is
no consensus on the cause of myopathy so I am fairly sure there are no
correlations. Any speculations, other than Lescol will be like all the
other statins and I'm screwed.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I suggest that you follow the advice on pages 154 and 160 of Jay Cohen's
book related to splitting pills and his advice on pages 8 to 15 related to
precision prescribing. Start with a very low dose and work up slowly to
find the dose that is right for you--every person is different. After
about a month, you should know whether or not you will develop myopathy.
If you do not develop myopathy, you could move to a higher dosage. It may
take 6 months or longer before you detemine the best dose for you. If you
develop any signs of myopathy, move back to the dosage level that did not
cause any symptoms of myopathy. That is the way Doctor Cohen recommends
that doctors do it but as we both know--most doctors don't have the time
or energy to practice precision prescribing. (They sell pill splitters at
most drug stores.) I had to stop taking statins due to the side
effects--memory problems and other problems. Make sure you take lots of
CQ10--see pages 60-61 and 125-126.
Jason

Jason
Thanks, I've got Jay Cohen's book but he does not address the use of
extended release statins. So my question is why is less better? If
it is because C sub max is lower then I go with 80 mg extended
release. If it is because AUC is lower then I go with 20 mg
once-a-day.

But since the mechanism of statin induced myopathy is not known, I
really don't expect an answer. My fallback is the 20 mg capsules
although I would dearly love to be able to go with the 80 mg extended
release tablets.

I have been on CoQ10 500 for a year and it has done nothing to prevent
myopathy on three different statins. Based on personal experience,
it's highly overrated.

In the interim, while I am off all statins, I am using Questran, Omega
3 fish oil capsules and Benecol stanols. I'll have my doctor run a
blood test before starting Lescol just to see how I'm doing.
Jay
.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Statin Myopathy - Cmax or AUC
    ... visit I will ask my doctor about giving Lescol a try. ... But in looking over the Lescol data I spotted two variables ... Question is which variable should best correlate myopathy? ... I had to stop taking statins due to the side ...
    (sci.med.cardiology)
  • Re: Statin Myopathy - Cmax or AUC
    ... visit I will ask my doctor about giving Lescol a try. ... Question is which variable should best correlate myopathy? ... Start with a very low dose and work up slowly to ... I had to stop taking statins due to the side ...
    (sci.med.cardiology)
  • Re: Quiting Statins up date
    ... This causes a severe rheumatism reaction, GOUT. ... the relationship exists between gout and statin myopathy. ... Dr. Graveline's website discussion of Gout and Statins ... colchicine and pravastatin. ...
    (sci.med.cardiology)
  • Re: serious question
    ... Doctor X prescribes statins to a patient. ... In my experience, doctors often prescribe medication ...
    (sci.med)
  • Re: serious question
    ... Doctor X prescribes statins to a patient. ... In my experience, doctors often prescribe medication ...
    (sci.med)