Re: Andrew, I have a question....

J Harshaw wrote:
On Jul 30, 7:07 pm, Rod <kc0...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Andy is Evil wrote:
Rod <kc0...@xxxxxxx> wrote innews:9P2ri.172$ox5.38@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
Andy is Evil wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartd...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:1185664807.772334.251900@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
Sock Notice: heartdoc9 in use. Socks 11 thru 17, and "andrew" busy
having spam launchers reloaded.
Where to complain recently posted in other sci.med.cardiology
threads, example:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e8013ad2973e2e47
? hl=en&
Rod wrote:
Andrew, I am on three medications to control high blood pressure
and a rythym irregularity, Toprol Xl, Enalapril and Hcz. I have
arthritus in my hips and lower back. What kind of pain killer can
I take with these meds, if any, that will not interfere with them ?
Rod
Would suggest you ask your doctor about Limbrel (I do not have any
ties with the company that makes this product). It effectively
reduces pain of osteoarthritis by reducing inflammation while not
increasing CV risk as traditional non-aspirin NSAIDS have a tendency
of doing.
This would be a temporary measure until you lose all the VAT, which is
likely the underlying cause of your osteoarthritis.
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:
Be sure that if you complained of headlice, Andrew would stretch
medical science to show the cause was all your VAT, so he could
cynically piggyback his "eating approach".
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
SCAM ALERT
SPAM SITE
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Hollow words when uttered cynically by Andrew to spam his scam.
Andy is Evil
Okay, you wannna play ? I'll play your way then. Do you believe in
innocent until proven guilty ? Yes or no ? I've seen no evidence
of Andrews guilt in anything here, and his advice to me certainly
snip
Rod
Hello Rod,
If you would like me to deal with your post point by point at another
time, I'm happy to do so, just say the word. For now, I'd just like to
deal with the first point that you've raised.
I've supplied some links to illustrate my points, but would invite you to
also look yourself through Andrew's posting history to see if what I have
written is valid.
If you use Google, you can see:
1.Andrew repeatedly cross-posting off topic. Medical info to Christian
groups, Christian screed to alt.support and sci.med groups. When other
posters challenged Andrew, he insisted that God was on topic everywhere.
Andrew chose to ignore an argument from one poster that there are certain
settings where acting on this is inappropriate.
2.When people responding to Andrew's posts set their follow-ups to the
appropriate groups, Andrew will reset his responses to restart the cross
posting.
3.In a science group, when challenged for scientific research to support
his "eating approach", he says a peer review exists, but that it will
remain on his desk until the time is right. Andrew has never posted
sufficient information for any interested party to look up and read the
document, or the document itself.
4. Andrew himself called his "eating approach" a "diet approach".
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/56763f68919c1...
hl=en& Now Andrew insists it is not a diet.
5. Andrew using a variety of posting identities rendering it awkward for
those who would like to 'plonk' him. What is his purpose in this ? Here's a possibility: "the use of a killfile is a sin"
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/c651...
41a670a?hl=en&
6. Some of Andrew's postings lead me to question how he applies scientific
discipline and how he acts as a medical practitioner.
(a) There are threads where he has insisted on a diagnosis based on very
little information, and when that person has insisted Andrew is incorrect
has been replied to with scepticism.
(b) Andrew has posted supporting a religous scam
(http://TruthRUS.org/RedSea) that even "Answers In Genesis" have
denounced.
(c) Andrew will take virtually any post and find a way to include
references to his "eating approach". Thus for any piece of advice or
information that Andrew offers, one is left wondering whether medical
considerations have taken a back seat to the desire to publicise.
(d) The weighting given to a bible story in a sci.med group in support of
Andrew's "eating approach", example:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.health.diabetes/msg/39d93848645...
?hl=en&
Or you can just google 625550 in sci.med.cardiology.
(e) The infamous email letter from Frank Hildner MD.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/d559bc684dd...
?hl=en&
7. Google themselves have deleted various accounts Andrew has created for
violating their terms of service.
It's not just Google, look over the years the antagonism Andrew has
managed to generate, is he really the only one who is right in all of this
?
Perhaps as one who is sympathetic towards Andrew you can persuade him to
finish with his net abuse as a step towards rebuilding his damaged
professional standing.
Here is my very first post as "Andy is Evil".
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7f616e05b2a04...
hl=en&
In it I am complaining about him bringing yet another bit of insanity from
alt.christnet.christianlife to sci.med.cardiology. If Andrew had followed
netiquette that day it is likely that "Andy is Evil" would not now exist.
Andy is Evil
Andy is evil;

I am not the jury, Andrews crossposting history may be considered as
bad etiquette, but it isn't proof of criminal wrong doing. What you
have been doing IS criminal by federal law. I suggest you look over
federal uniform criminal codes under computer stalking and
harassment. If you cannot find them I will post a link to them
for you. Read them carefully, as their really is no good reason for
you to 1. harass and stalk Andrew if you have proof, and 2. no
reason that you should do jail time for a crime that you could avoid
being found guilty of.

ON a personal note, it is an unacceptable practice to respond to
someone then use that same response to denegrade another person. It
IS highly unacceptable, and I find it highly offensive, just as
offensive as you feel his posts are to you!

This has to be resolved, it shouldn't continue out of common decency
to everyone. Popular opinion would have public trials in the media
or a place like this. This is America, we don't do things that way,
and Andrew is innocent until proven guilty.

Now lets deal with your innocence, you aren't, and you've made that
easy to see all over the news group. Your posts verify that you have
a beef with Andrew, and repeated posts in the same tone and fashion
verify harassment. Now, a few lines back you wanted a trial of sorts
for Andrew by way of some of his posts. Nothing in those posts was
illegal or evil, and nothing in them justified harassment and
stalking.

I just gave you a small sample of the type of chance you're trying
to give Andrew here. It isn't just and it isn't right, and to top
it off Andrew is of asian descent making him vulnerable to people
with no morals at all and putting him at an extreme disadvantage.

NOw, there is no reason for you to continue. If you feel he has
violated ethics or laws then take it to the proper channels. This
isn't worth YOU getting yourself in trouble over.

And I don't want to be the one that is sent to arrest you..

Is this clear enough ?

Rod- Hide quoted text -

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Go f*** yourself, man.


That sounds like something you could enjoy,
I'm not into evil habits.
.

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