Re: Low-carb ketogenic dieting ==> Acetone breath.
- From: Rod <kc0oeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:37:23 -0500
Cary Kittrell wrote:
Rod <kc0oeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Cary Kittrell wrote:Rod <kc0oeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>You seriously expect me to answer this ? I'm not a prophetSanity's Little Helper wrote:Rod <kc0oeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote inNevertheless, your paraphrasing him is seen as endorsement. I believe
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Sanity's Little Helper wrote:I'm paraphrasing him, not endorsing him, and, BTW, Andrew DOES endorse Phelps.Rod <kc0oeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote inBTW, as you doubt Andrews sanity, I want to direct your attention
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:As Andrew will confirm, none have turned to the Lord, but many have become demons, having blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Still think he's atconvicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:Andrew;What, no one has answered this for you yet?>From your cite:
Here ya go:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/8262f34357a
9f 7e7?
Context:
"Atkins relies on some dubious magic trick where you stuff your
face with meat, fat and cholesterol, but it all magically
disappears just so long as you don't eat any dreaded
carbohydrates." -- JJ Jones
The written response to the context:
"Hyperketonemia suppresses appetite. There is no magic in this.
Simply spritz what you are eating with acetone (fingernail polish
remover) to add the ketones and replicate their effect." -- Andrew
B. Chung, MDPhD
Current comments:
Acetone continues to be used as fingernail polish remover and it is
the same chemical that causes the fruity smell on the breaths of
those on Atkin's ketogenic diet. Writing that the weight loss
effect of Atkin's ketogenic diet can be replicated with spritzing
meals with acetone is no more an endorsement of the latter behavior
as writing that the weight loss effect of the 2PD-OMER Approach can
be replicated with gastric bypass surgery would be an endorsement
of the latter procedure.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS
compelling you to become a blessing to those who have been
disappointed with their Atkin's ketogenic diet experience.
Be hungry... lose the VAT... cure the tinnitus:
I have gone to your convicted webpage to see if any
names have turned to the Lord. I was wondering what
number I am there, and if you can use my repentance
to serve the Lord as well? Perhaps put up some
testimonies?
Thank you Andrew.
Rod
all sane?
to your quote below; Fred Phelps. I live 51 mile southwest of Topeka
Kansas and Westboro baptist Church, and I know the Phelps family
personally and have had a run in with Fred and his church.
Fred and many of his supporters have voiced a desire to kill homosexuals many times in anger, and only the law keeps them from
doing so.
I do not consider your endorsement of Fred and his hate as being a
sound decision or a sane one.
Rod
that many of the things Phelps does are correct biblically, but I
won't endorse him for the reason i have given you. if you care to see
it from a perspective of a christians faith, than I can tell you that
a christian cannot meet the commandment to obey your local authorities
and their laws and murder or kill someone and break those same laws.
So, you now know where i stand on that.
Hmmm...after reading what you write, I must confess that I am still a bit
confused as to where you stand on the Phelpses. For example,
given that the following examples involve no killing, no violation of secluar law, just opinion or supplication,
I am curious whether you, agree with the Phelpses' prayer that over three million more Americans will be killed in Iraq?
or a seer. I don't know.
Do you feel that it is Biblical that Billy Graham "is a foolish, lying, leg-spreading whore"?I don't know Billy Graham, do you ?
Or thatExplain to me how I would know these things. I would
Ronald Regan, Gerald Ford, Tammy Faye, Coretta Scott
King, John Paul II, the miners killed in that disaster
in West Virginia are now burning in hell?
have to know them as fact to believe it is so. I know
you are asking me pointed questions in an attempt to
pin me to a wall, were it otherwise you would not try
and tempt me to prophesy when i know I cannot.
Well, good for you then. I find your attitude far more
reasonable than the stance taken by the Phelpses, who
share none of your qualms along these lines.
Along withI have no idea about these people or what has transpired
those whom "God abruptly snatched from the Minneapolis
Bridge and cast into hell"? (and that, you see, because
Minnesota is "The Land of the Sodomite Damned", as we
read in the flyer "Thank God for Minneapolis Bridge Collapse")
Or that, with regard to the schoolchildren shot in
Pennsylvania:
The Amish children from Pennsylvania are even now in hell. Stop spreading the lie that they were innocent. They were just as degenerate and deserving of hell as the pervert who killed them.
in their lives.
And so you ask me to do so in his stead, knowing that for
Andrew, you see, has characterized Fred Phelps as someone
who "loves GOD with all his heart, soul, mind, and strength";
indeed, Fred Phelps "reminds [Andrew] of John the Baptist".
And Andrew has steadfastly, consistently, and most resolutely
refused to condemn a single thing emanating from the Westboro
Baptist Church, no matter how many times he has been challenged
to do so.
a christian to condemn is to be transgress.
God judges a man by his heart, his actions and his words,
I am not to judge another mans salvation, only his actions
for my own spiritual edification.
And it is fair to say, is it not, that you have judged a number of
posters here by their online actions?
And yet you will not judge Fred Phelps for his actions in praying that three million more solidiers die in Iraq? (because,
as Fred informs us: "SOLDIERS DIE GOD LAUGHTS")
The Bible will tell you
where a mans actions will land him, and I can quote it, but
I can't make it a judgement as that is already rendered
by another who IS fit to judge.
But again I must say that you seem to have rendered strong
opinions -- strong negative opinions -- concerning a number
of posters in this forum.
Those posters were relating there words to me. I had direct experience
with them, knowledge of the manner in which they conduct themselves. I am not in Iraq, I am in Kansas. I have little to no knowledge of what
conditions they have to fight under, or everything they may be faced with. How can I render a judgment on the actions of another person if I do not have all the facts ? I don't want this responsibility for the
very obvious reasons I have stated to you.
That is like you asking me to pass a judgment on the actions of George
Bush on the toilet. Having no firsthand knowledge of his opinions or why he feels that way, abnd whether he knows right from wrong in this manner, who am I to say ?
But not concerning ol' Fred.
Me, I find that most interesting.
I find it insulting that you would invite me to transgress..
and that you willing do so, and I find it disturbing on many
levels, Cary. You see, I detest evil. It makes survival of the
humans race so much more difficult, and after all you are human.
I would not have you think that
I accept that then.
-- because I personally find
no evil whatsoever in saying, as I do now, that Fred Phelps actions
are those of a hateful and hate-filled outrage addict who,
like any addict, must keep escalating the level of outrage
by publicly pouring salt on the wounds of the survivors
of various tragedies, and by showing up at funerals
and waving signs informing the bereaved that God hates
them, and that those they have gathered to mourn are
now roasting in hell, for that they were "fag-enablers".
I do not know if you are or are not christian, and it would be wrong of me to assume anything. But what I say is from the point of view of a follower of Christ; scripture states that a christian is to rebuke someone in a heresy twice (assuming that they have correctly understood
it to be heresy), and after that to disassociate with them, so this leaves you with the question, what was the heresy ? What does the scripture state pertaining to the situation?
Now, you have mentioned something I do have some firsthand knowledge
of, at least in limited situations, the picketing of funerals. There
is no instruction relating to that in scripture, so the decision as
to right and wrong is based solely on the situation. Was the deceased
homosexual ? Was the deceased a supporter of homosexual rights in the
workplace ? What were his actions in life that led to this condemnation by Phelps ?
There are two seperate sets of laws at work in these circumstances,
the laws of man and the laws of God. Many times they conflict, and
the followers of God must adhere to His laws first and foremost.
So that leaves a quandry. As an example, if scripture were to state that homosexuals must all be put to the sword in the old testament, and
the new testament could say only that you are to submit to your authorities, then that means that you are in submission to local valid laws, so what do the laws say ?
Okay, in certain circumstances it is possible that what Fred is doing
could be wrong, but without knowing the particulars of those circumstances how can I make a correct decision ? You cannot. I will say
this, I know firsthand of some situations where Fred has been wrong,
and one of his workers accosting my wife on the campus of Emporia State
University simply for being a student at a school that gays attend is
unjustified, and he will answer for that.
There you have my firsthand experience. I have answered your questions to the moral limit I am able. I will go no further.
Nope, I don't consider the above paragraph to be a transgression
of anything whatsoever.
Where is your love for and allegiance to your own kind ? And
I've edited the news groups line to prevent cross posting.
And I've added it back due to the fact that this exact debate
has a long history in `alt.atheism', and so I feel that the
posters there are thus quite justified in participating.
And I have ommitted it do to complaints from atheists about christians posting in their news groups. if they want it, they can come here and get it.
Rod
--
"Fascism has arrived in America, and it is disguised as men !"
-- Me
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