Re: Please don't stop praying for Vera, Fred, Mistylein, and Don ...

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
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convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
Pro-Humanist FREELOVER wrote:

[Re Dawkins]

He's a naturalist who, after a religious expo-
sure at a young age, grew up and later decided
that he didn't believe that the God descriptions,
any of them, were representative of reality.

As for "everlasting fire", he would desire evi-
dence if he thought any of the threats had any
possibility of being true, and would recognize
the danger of threatening humankind in a "be-
lieve or else" manner without one iota of evi-
dence that any of the seductions (like heaven)
and threats (like hell) are true, the dire conse-
quences that have resulted from that combo
in this one real life we share, both past and
present.

He hopes that in the future, humankind will
free itself from the consequences of what
using blind faith to follow ancient oft-times
anti-human dogma has imparted (glaring
recent example, the 9-11 mass murders
and the religious-inspired Bush decision
to handicap embryonic stem cell research
which caused significant increases in costs
to researchers who had to split their re-
sources between research OK and not
OK per government strictures).

The sad thing, though--if you are describing his thinking
accurately--is that he appears to be rejecting the same uncritical
descriptions and definitions of God, hell, and the rest as the
hard-line fundamentalists cling to, much of it still echoing what they
learned as childhood morality tales. The extremists at each end are
either unaware of or ignoring the wealth of religious thought on both
sides of the issues, and the philosophers and others that see much
more depth and complexity in the world and the way it works, includes
the great ethical questions that need to be wrestled with.

No amount of judging others is going to help you become able to
publicly say "Jesus is LORD."

No amount of your misconstruing, misinterpreting, misunderstanding,
misanthropy will turn what I wrote into judging rather than stating
observable facts. The rest of what you wrote is extremely old news.

You struck out with "judging" so now you're going to try "critical."

Your being critical of others does mean you have judged them.

I AM is being critical of you, doc. But you seem to think making
judgments and criticisms is necessarily a bad thing. I guess the idea
of something being constructive and useful never occurs to you.
--
Don Kirkman
donsno2@xxxxxxxxxxx
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