Re: Husband's Bridge
From: Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S. (joeleichen_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 06/13/04
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:23:52 -0400
DAVID LEADER
You wrote,
>You may want to add to this disclaimer that dentists are not able to
>give legal advice. Another item to add is that laws, regulations and
>standards of care may vary depending on location. Then again, the
>disclaimer does not give us license to give bad advice or to impune
>our collegues.
REPLY
You are confusing two separate issues. If the patient asks, "Hey! How
does my bridge look?" Our reply is, "Better ask your dentist. We can't
see so well from here."
On the other hand, if a patient asks, "Is it okay for the nonlicensed
dental assistant to be doing the scaling and root planing?" David
Leader is suggesting we say ,,,,,,
"Ummmmm, well ......... ummmmmmm, wel-l-l-l-l-l-l, let me
see-e-e-e-e-e-e, ummmmmmmmm we cannot comment on that particular
question this particular time and we suggest you bug the Peer Review
Committee from our jurisdiction instead.
HEY DAVID!
That's beating around the bush! ITS ILLEGAL!
Flat out illegal. That's not legal!
CONVICT: "Is it okay to shoot someone in cold blood?"
DENTIST: "NO-OOO-OO-OOOO-O-O!"
That's not legal advice. What is the matter with you guys?
JOEL
On 12 Jun 2004 19:00:25 -0700, leaderdmd@juno.com (Dr. David Leader)
wrote:
>This disclaimer?:
>
>"This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes
>only.
>Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before
>acting on
>the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined
>you
>in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will
>affect
>your health."
>
>Dr. Eichen,
>
>You may want to add to this disclaimer that dentists are not able to
>give legal advice. Another item to add is that laws, regulations and
>standards of care may vary depending on location. Then again, the
>disclaimer does not give us license to give bad advice or to impune
>our collegues.
>
>Maybe it would be better to follow the ADA's Principles of Ethics and
>Code of Professional Conduct from Section 4.C. JUSTIFIABLE CRITICISM.
>"…Patients should be informed of their present oral health status
>without
>disparaging comment about prior services. In other words we may say,
>"there is a problem with your bridge." We should not say,
>"...it's quite possible that the dental offices most eager to
>use ancillary personnel for this crucial procedure didn't take that
>much care with the preps to start with, so it wouldn't really matter
>."
>
>It's very difficult to give people helpful advice in this format. We
>usually don't have all of the necessary information. This thread is a
>good example.
>
>Since we got the information 2nd hand, 2nd lay person hand, it is
>difficult to asses the reliability of the information. Was the bridge
>a temp? If so, many jurisdictions allow Certified or Registered dental
>assistants to fabricate temps and cement them. The "...Illegal..."
>comment is without foundation since we don't know the actual procedure
>or the laws of the state.
>
>The comment may get back to the patient 2nd hand as well. It could be
>transformed into, "Honey, a Dentist says that's illegal." Think of
>our collegue who now would have to take the time to explain the
>regulations of his state and how what he does in his office is not
>illegal. This could precitate a complaint to the state dental
>society. If that happens, it may make work for the volunteer peer
>review committee in the treating dentist's district. All because of
>bad advice.
>
>To the person who began this thread I remind you that you did not pay
>for any of the advice you have recieved.
>
>
>David Leader, DMD
>
>"Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S." <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<r42nc09tieq84hti970o6o7sq423agjm4d@4ax.com>...
>> This is true. Please remember our DISCLAIMER.
>>
>> JOEL
>>
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