Re: WrongedPatient Interested inSuitSpeaks...

From: Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S. (joeleichen_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 06/14/04 

Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:29:15 -0400

On 14 Jun 2004 14:36:04 -0700, ukphrt4@yahoo.com (Williams) wrote:

>X-No-archive: yes
>I've read all your replies and I wanted to reply to all. I assure you,
>I am not a sue-happy slug and except for consulting a divorce lawyer
>many years ago, I have never consulted a lawyer for anything else.
>Considering my age, that must be a record of some kind. It's more than
>just a personality problem - work itself is shoddy.
>
>When I told my dentist (practicing 30 years - works for dental
>company) I wanted a second opinion from another dentist BEFORE he
>permanently cemented what I considered a questionable bridge in place,
>he became enraged. He had shouted at me in the past, and shown other
>odd behaviors unbecoming for a dentist including repeatedly sneaking
>up behind me and hugging my shoulders when ever I was at the
>appointment desk. (I am a woman)

Whew! I was wonnnerin'

> My response was to noticably
>freeze-up and back away - a simple gesture anyone with two eyes from
>any culture would understand. One more time (I give four chances
>first) and I was going to shout loud and clear for everyone in the
>office to hear, "Dr.X, please, don't touch me like that again!"
>
>Dr.X, had a way of tuning me out when ever I complained of inordinate
>gum sensitivity in a front anchor-tooth. By the way, just as an aside,
>he had forgotten to remove the green cord from that tooth before
>putting the temp in place which resulted in a painful infection.

YEOWWW.

>(same
>tooth as cavity) When the cord finally worked it's way out on it's own
>I told the dentist about this and there was no response from him. No
>reply, no explanation - not even a nod.

Bad move, Doc. Patients EXPECT a show of sympathy and contrition.

>
>The 2nd opinion dentist noticed a few things wrong with the bridge and
>encouraged me to file a grievance - and get the work redone elsewhere.

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>The original dentist then said I could have my money back minus the
>lab fees. I objected to paying the lab fee because I don't think I
>should absorb the dentists mistake - either does the HMO's consulting
>dentist.
>
>The nature of the damage regarding the work has already been been
>reported by my HMO's grievance committee's consulting dentist.

You may or may not have a case. There is a strong difference between
being negligent and having a bad outcome. For the latter, the dentist
is safe.

>The
>case is pending. I don't know if they will reimburse me for total fees
>paid only, or add more to cover the full expenses of the larger work
>recommended by the consulting dentist which from the impression he
>gave me, arose from the dentists shoddy work.

There also exists the possibility that dentist number two is
incorrect!

>
>Aside of the bridge not fitting well at all, it has a fracture in the
>front tooth, and a cavity under that same tooth's post/buildup (Dr.X
>did the PB) which may likely result in that tooth's removal. (I will
>need an endo opinion to verify what needs to be done.)

Start over .......

What has a fracture? The brisge or the tooth?

Cavity under the same tooth means _ _ _ _ _ _ _.

>
>The HMO's consulting DDS doubts that front anchor tooth will be able
>to support a bridge any longer, even it if it is saved, and so
>recommended a different kind of bridge involving more teeth and a
>key-way addition for three back teeth. In all, nine teeth. Very
>expensive and chancey. One goes wrong, they all go wrong.

So the HMO doc saw your mouth?

>
>Someone here mentioned that grievance's are highly stressful. I found
>the process to be an enjoyable breeze compared to the unbelieveable
>stress I endured from Dr.X's treatment. If $ were no problem, I'd
>have walked out the first day he began work - but I'd already paid IN
>FULL - green cash. This dentist was the roughest dentist I'd ever been
>to. When he began drilling It felt as if I had no shot at all. I was
>jumping all over the chair and when I asked him to please go easy, he
>continued as before. I have a mouthful of crowns and root canals and
>have been down that road many times so I know what I'm saying when I
>tell you I felt like I was being beaten up.
>
>I don't think this man is normal, and seriously wonder if he should
>still be practicing? Dr. X's wanting to permanently cement on an
>ill-fitting, fractured bridge on an unstable anchor-tooth (with a
>cavity) is outragous! AND - if this wasn't enough, his yelling at me
>when I said I wanted a second opinion first, convinced me he is off
>his rocker and should be stopped. Come on, don't you? Somebody should
>confront this guy.

Sounds weird, I agree.

JOEL

>Talk about your Little Shop of Horrors...

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