Re: Implants Price?

From: Alexander Vasserman DDS., BS. (purple543210_at_yahoo.ca)
Date: 07/05/04 

Date: 5 Jul 2004 01:08:38 -0700

Ron.@jps.net (Ron) wrote in message news:<40e88fe0.12774364@news.infostations.com>...
> On 4 Jul 2004 15:20:20 -0700, purple543210@yahoo.ca (Alexander
> Vasserman DDS., BS.) wrote:
>
> >> Yes, so now the "unwise", those least able to pay are the only ones
> >> charged the "abnormal" fees - fees higher than ins + co-pay
> >> combined for which they are 100% responsible.
> >
> >
> >Where do you get off calling it an abnormal fee????
>
> I was replying to Joel, who said:
> We used to rip off the dental insurance companies
> until they got wise and negotiated a lower than normal fee.
>
> And the point is that it is crazy that the person least
> able to afford it gets charged at least 20% more, if effect,
> subsidizing everyone else.
>
> >The fee is the fee it accounts for all the expenses, cost of doing
> >business, doctors' education, risk, and some small profit in the same
> >ratios as any other service offered in this country.
> >It's the insurance fee that is abnormally low that produces overhead
> >in the 70 percent range.
>
> >Look around you tell me who owns all the sky scrapers it sure is not
> >the doc.
>
> That's why I said earlier if he goes into it only
> for the money he's making a big mistake.
> H. makes a good point about dentists becoming more proficient
> at practice management.

The future of practice management is charging by the hour plus
expenses just like the attorneys and accountants.
(350 doctor + 25 receptionist +15 assistant)+materials+parking=1h
prophy

>
>
> >> I don't know how you guys sleep at night. You couldn't
> >> design a more insane system if you tried!
> >>
> >> And Harrion makes some good points.
> >> >>>Hmm interesting but not strictly accurate. Patient requires either a 3
> >> >>>unit fixed bridge or an implant, patient cannot afford either. Where are
> >> >>>the options for these people? Lawn furniture can hardly be compared to
> >> >>>health care.
>
> >> >>>I was surprised to see your earlier post criticizing how the poor choose
> >> >>>to spend their money, given that you have posted in that past as to how
> >> >>>small the demands of the average low income family actually are- a few
> >> >>>basic luxuries etc. It seems a rather glib argument on your part...are
> >> >>>you suggesting that those on low income should live like Quakers to
> >> >>>ensure they can pay for their dental needs?
>
> >> >>>I think I have commented previously that the dental care available to a
> >> >>>large percentage of the population today is basically the same as was
> >> >>>available 50 years ago. Advances in dentistry benefit the rich
> >> >>>primarily. Now the dentists here can launch into debates on overheads,
> >> >>>materials costs etc, however they hold very little water. I know what a
> >> >>>medium size dental practice pulls in on average, and I know what goes
> >> >>>out. Dental services will only be come more affordable when the used car
> >> >>>sales man types get out of dentistry and when dentists become more
> >> >>>proficient at practice management.

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