Re: question about splints

From: Dr Steve (nospam_at_home.net)
Date: 07/13/04 

Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:16:07 GMT

3 cases? 

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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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"The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-7FD575.11014813072004@orngca-news04.socal.rr.com...
> Hi SP,
> Believe me, I miss the point of almost everything *most* of the time.
> But once in awhile, there are some subtle points that filter into my
> analytic way of "thinking about the spectrum of TMJ troubles" that
> others just might not "think about".
>
> Thanks for offering to make an NTI for me if I were ever in your area.
> That is very generous of you.  Also, it was generous of you to offer the
> advice as given.
>
> What you may not know is that I know Dr. Boyd from *way back*.  My
> maxillofacial surgeon of many years retired and his partner who has
> known me (and my case) for most of twenty years is as fine a surgeon as
> I could hope to find for myself (in Los Angeles).  The nature of my
> injuries are so very complex that no one can really put a finger on what
> is what except to realize that with the complete loss of lateral and
> protrusive/retrusive mobility, my function is limited by what little I
> have left of muscle tissue that has not been sclerosed and atrophied as
> a result of far too many surgeries and the consequences of being
> surgically mutilated over the years.
>
> Freeway space in my case just doesn't fit in the way it does for people
> with normal anatomy and physiology of the TM system.  One-hundred
> percent of my jaw function exists within about 8-10 millimeters of
> hinged verticle opening *only*.
>
> Now, back to the thread:
>
> I think what the dentists were often doing before the option of the NTI
> (or the A.G.E.LK in Italy and three cases in North America) was often
> ending up with patients going around and around looking for someone who
> knew something more than the one who just "didn't know what else to
> do"... people ended up in the hands of maxillofacial surgeons who
> *believed* that there were surgical procedures that *might* help (but
> they usually only ended up with the patient back in the O.R. for more
> surgery).
>
> There was the idea that it was up to the patient to take responsibility
> for their "problems".  This just isn't fair.  This resulted in something
> that came to be know "CLS" (crazy lady syndrome).  Dentists and doctors
> did everything they could to remedy the ailments but the people never
> got better or they even got worse .... therefore, the idea that the
> people (mostly women) needed psychiatric care more than dentistry or
> medical care ... CLS.  It was an unfortunate time.  Without a doubt,
> when people suffer long enough from pain that makes life difficult on a
> chronic level, the mental health is also challenged.  But it became all
> to easy to put the blame on the patient.
>
> I know a lot about this segment of the TMJ iatroepidemic's story.  Now,
> we know that a simple NTI or treatment with A.G.E.LK (both closely
> related with some differences in applications), can keep most people out
> of the mental health "chair", out of the O.R., and *also* out of the
> dental "chair" too.
>
> There's always more to be said by everyone who bothers following this
> subject.  I started a newsgroup back in 1996 called
> alt.support.jaw-disorders for various reasons that were more important
> then than now.  The newsgroup should be used more today than ever but
> technology allowing for web forums made asj-d less attractive.
> Unfortunately, web forums are normally moderated by someone who makes
> the space available.  This is why I want to see asj-d stay active in
> Usenet.  It is unmoderated, there is no one gaining anything by limited
> what someone has to say about *anything*.
>
> Thanks for your input, SP!
>
> TW
>
> In article <1ggu735.27ushw1h9wc6iN%stoveTRASHpipe@globetrotter.net>,
>  stoveTRASHpipe@globetrotter.net (StovePipe) wrote:
>
> > The Webby <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi SP,
> > > I think you may have misunderstood Steve F.'s comment.  Or. ... maybe
I
> > > misunderstood.  Hey Steve, is there some misunderstanding here?
> > >
> > > TW
> > > (I have some "stuff" to back up my comment ... but prefer not to go
> > > there, back in time.)
> > >
> > > In article <1ggu2ip.866zzj13mpariN%stoveTRASHpipe@globetrotter.net>,
> > >  stoveTRASHpipe@globetrotter.net (StovePipe) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Steven Fawks <tuthjockey@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > >
> >
> > You may be right, Sabra, I tend to miss the point of 99 percent of what
> > goes on in this here world. A couple of people here say that I only land
> > on Planet Earth but twice or thrice a year....
> >
> > On the other hand, YOU might be well served by an NTI adjusted down so
> > that it opens the mouth minimally, to be worn while you sleep. If you
> > are in chronic pain (as I am sure you are with your tmj injury), this
> > device can break the cycle of muscle tension reactionary to chronic
> > pain.
> >
> > If you ever visit one of the 'usual suspects', ask them to make one for
> > you. You cannot lose much by trying it. Of course, If you ever got to
> > Quebec City, I would make one for you here.
> > Thanks
> > SP
>
> -- 
>  -- 
> Sabra Broock <sabrabroock@earthlink.net>

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