Re: Labs and crowns

From: Alexander Vasserman DDS., BS. (purple543210_at_yahoo.ca)
Date: 07/14/04


Date: 13 Jul 2004 17:49:45 -0700


"Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S." <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<vup7f0tvsotagu5h0k2p73apjpl49382va@4ax.com>...
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:40:05 GMT, "jwndds" <dds__@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I agree that some dentists tailor their practice to crowns/veneers/etc.
> >
> >I just hear stuff like that all the time at work. "cosmetic dentist" or
> >"implant specialist" etc. These false titles are so rampant I don't even
> >bother pointing them out anymore to people who ask.
>
> We agree.

me too.

Its deceptive ........ and not according to ADA
> classification of specialists ,,, hence is it also unethical?
Unethical only if you are bound to follow ADA definitions.
Illegal if you do not follow local government definitions.
In Russia dentists are call Stomatologists.
The problem is there is no international standard.

Places like LVI have created other definitions such as Nueromuscular
Dentists.
I think the discription should be accurate to one's credentials and to
what their practice is taylored to.
I really think that only dentists read into this, most of the lay
public does not know or care about the difference.
They videotaped Howard Landesman Former Dean of USC on the street
asking the lay person if they knew what a prosthodontist is. To
everyone's surprise the lay public could not narrow down the field to
dentistry.

>
>
>
> >
> >Again... maybe Canadian standards are different but I can't even call myself
> >a "dental surgeon" even though my degree is doctor of dental surgery.
> >According to my provincial governing body I can use Dr., Doctor, Dentist, or
> >Registered.
> >
> >Oddly enough it isn't really enforced. I know of people who advertise
> >cosmetic dentist, implant specialtist, dental surgeon, etc.
>
> Nor is securities fraud, quite generally. Perhaps Ken Lay will be in
> the unusual crowd that does jail time.
>
> ENRON dude.
>
> >
> >jwn dds
> >
> >
> >"Alexander Vasserman DDS., BS." <purple543210@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> >news:b72aca93.0407122212.2248ac8f@posting.google.com...
> >> "jwndds" <dds__@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<g2zIc.1013559$Pk3.357688@pd7tw1no>...
> >> > I don't think that you need a "cosmetic dentist" over a real dentist.
> There
> >> > is no specialty for cosmetic dentistry
> >>
> >> True "officially" what ever that means and by which country's
> >> standards?
> >> But that may soon change. Cosmetic dentistry should be a specialty.
> >> (How about "Aesthedontist")
> >>
> >> so any dentist who advertises
> >> > him/herself as a "cosmetic dentist" is just doing that for the ad.
> >>
> >> I disagree.
> >> A cosmetic dentist focuses or limits his/her practice on cosmetic
> >> restorations.
> >> ie no amalgam or gold/ as much as possible metal free restorations.
> >> Usually belong to AACD and take a ton of advanced esthetic courses.
> >> You can have dental health but your teeth may look ugly uneven not
> >> white etc...
> >> Cosmetic dentists focus their treatment plans to address these issues
> >> hopefully on a willing patient. It's a positioning philosophy
> >> involving attractive smiles.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Pick a reliable dentist by word or mouth or whatever means you want.
> The
> >> > dentist must do a good preparation and impression. We have a few labs
> that
> >> > we use and some do a noticeable difference on porcelain shading and
> anatomy.
> >> > The lab has alot more to do with it than the dentist but they can only
> use
> >> > what the dentist give them... good luck
> >> >
> >> > We have one particular lab that can do shading under their custom
> lighting
> >> > that will give the best results with metamerism.
> >> >
> >> > jwn dds
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "The Real Paul" <no@no.no> wrote in message
> >> > news:aKyIc.3817$sV2.48@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >> > > The dentist does have something to do with the esthetics of the crown.
> He
> >> > > must do a proper prep and a proper impression for the lab to do great
> work.
> >> > > The lab definitely has to be good in order to get quality
> restorations.
> But
> >> > > remember..junk in...junk out..
> >> > > If you want to use his best lab just ask him. He may charge you more
> for
> >> > > that crown.
> >> > >
> >> > > "Mrsralph" <mrsralph@aol.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:20040712105616.06719.00001362@mb-m13.aol.com...
> >> > > > Since a lot of the aesthetics of crowns seems to depend on the lab,
> is
> there
> >> > > > any good way to tell your dentist you like his work a lot but you
> want
> >> > to
> >> > have
> >> > > > a crown made elsewhere because the lab is better?
> >> > > > If aesthetics are super important to you, is it better to go to a
> cosmetic
> >> > > > dentist that a general practice dentist for crowns?
> >> > > > Thanks!
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >



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