Re: Dental malpractice (UK) - Some questions - mostly legal

From: W_B (no_one_at_nowhere.net)
Date: 10/07/04 

Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 20:59:05 GMT

That truly was awesome.

Fix a man's tooth, then take it out for a test drive !

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:01:03 GMT, "Dr Steve" <nospam@home.net> wrote:

>Andrew's point (B) and reading the lady's responses to his early letters
>leads me to believe she hears these complaints a lot and has carefully
>rehearsed her response and has a solicitor on retainer to advise her on
>these matters.
>
>I got to look at the extracted tooth in person. It had a very old buccal
>composite which was leaking badly with recurrent caries underneath it. You
>could set the tooth on your desk and see the caries from the other side of
>your desk. She took out the occlusal amalgam (which was not too bad) and
>left the buccal composite (and its caries) alone. A few months later, the
>tooth gets "hot", and she refuses RCT, then later back-tracks (verbiage of
>her letter smells strongly of solicitor) and claims the patient refused RCT
>and insisted on extraction.
>
>The lady is a CROOK.
>
>She refused further treatment on the lower second molar which she set the
>composite right on top of a pulp exposure. Left this dear man in pain with
>no hope of relief. I will not begin to describe the sensation of
>fulfillment we felt to do the RCT on this tooth, set a CAD-CAM crown on it,
>and then take Andrew out for lunch and watch him eat comfortably.
>--
>~+--~+--~+--~+--~+--
>Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
>Troy, Michigan, USA
>....................................................
>
>This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
>Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
>the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you
>in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
>your health.
>......................
>"Andrew" <mossyglade@RemoveThisBiTntlworld.com> wrote in message
>news:2sjcrvF1iq90qU1@uni-berlin.de...
>>
>> I did contact the amalgam removal dentist and discuss removal of my
>> amalgam
>> fillings. She was very keen to do so and told me it wouldn't cost as much
>> as
>> I thought and I was then given appointments along with the estimate - not
>> after I'd OKed the estimate, so a little bit of pushing there, but my main
>> grievances are A) That I understood I'd have a good mouthfull of sound
>> teeth
>> with all my old fillings replaced with sound new ones. I was not told
>> that she would leave decay in place and hide it under new fillings, so
>> yes,
>> I got rid of my amalgam but I was left with teeth that despite major work
>> on
>> them still were in urgent need of treatment. B) It was not until part way
>> through the treatment that she told me that amalgams are leaky and
>> composites are not and therefore replacing amalgam with composite can
>> sometimes lead to a build up of pressure in the tooth, pressure that was
>> previously escaping - doesn't this indicate that she knew she was sealing
>> in
>> decay?? C) When I told her I had pain all over the place and had been
>> grinding teeth, her response was to paint flouride varnish onto teeth and
>> tell me not to clench them. She also told me to use Sensodyne toothpaste!!
>> D) When I had severe pain in #21 (please forgive US nomenclature but its
>> what I've grown used to now), pain that responded to whisky and where
>> there
>> was a spot that looked mighty like a leakage, she applied the varnish and
>> left the decay to continue until the tooth died, the night before an
>> emergency appointment with her as it happened. At this point the pain was
>> gone and there was no great urgency to have the tooth out, but she told me
>> that RCT was controversial and clearly she wanted to take the tooth out.
>> She
>> gave me only seconds to decide and I actually didn't realise she was going
>> straight ahead until she pulled it out. I thought she was just
>> investigating. I just wish I'd had a competent RCT dentist - or a world
>> class expert like WB there. Please note that regarding this tooth, I told
>> her that that another dentist said its hole was too large to fill
>> and it needed a crown. She said she could fill it - and then left the hole
>> unfilled for three months. It was another four painful months before it
>> died. E) She told me that it was fine to have a gap in my occlusion - ie
>> one
>> side contacting before the other and that the jaw would compensate. At the
>> end of my treatment with her, it felt like there was quite a few mm gap at
>> one side when the other side was closed. That led to bed bruxism. F) She
>> did
>> this enormous amount of work (16 teeth) in just 3 shortish sessions - and
>> without a single x-ray. She said she did not see the point of x rays as
>> when
>> she drilled into the tooth she would see what it was like inside.
>>
>> Prior to meeting this dentist my teeth had worked well and been pain and
>> problem free for many years.
>>
>> I spent a lot of time presenting all this to the GDC and don't understand
>> why
>> they have not acted on it.
>>
>> Thanks for your warning about UK lawyers. Care to pass on a recommendation
>> to me??
>>
>> Your description elsewhere of life as an NHS dentist and the effect it has
>> on dentists is very interesting. I had no idea it was so bad. All I knew
>> is
>> that it is nearly impossible to find an NHS dentist now as more and more
>> of
>> them are turning to private practice. You are probably right in surmising
>> she is an NHS dentist with some private patients as I recall when I was in
>> for one of my £500 sessions, I overheard a guy before me was being charged
>> something like £8 or £10!!
>>
>> Regarding time taken, Steve took more time X-raying my teeth and planning
>> his work (before he even switched the drill on) than the UK lady dentist
>> took on doing 18 or so fillings.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 

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