Re: Elect a committee Was: Re: Am I the only one?

From: Jan (jdrew63929_at_aol.com)
Date: 11/04/04 

Date: 04 Nov 2004 00:23:27 GMT

>From: Happy Oyster

>have to point at some few of them.
>The "FAQ about Jan Drew" and the collections by Mark Thorson and Rich@
>are usefull here.

Both known and proven liars.

There is one more point not to forget. If someone with a certain topic
shows up in this ng, he will perhaps be considered nuts. That is the
case with amalgam issues. I have the problem that most dentists just
do not realize what the amalgam issue is all about (and so they
declare ALL people who engage against amalgam as being nuts). It is
hard to make dentists understand the scientific matters. A new part
in the amalgam issue was started in Sweden with the crematories and
their vaporizing mercury from dental amalgam into the free air...

> I have the problem that most dentists just do not realize what the amalgam
issue is all about.

Wrong.

They know what is is about. They can't answer questons.

>So, for the sake of the victims of amalgam and for the sake of
>science, people like Jan Drew must be stopped.
>
Fraid not, people have been trying for some 5 years, they have failed and so
have you.

>If criminals like Jan Drew show up

Poor Airhead.

Eager to believe known and proven liars.

 So, people like Jan Drew do great
>harm to the people

I have helped others and will continue until the day I die.

I don't post for you, I post for all those STILL suffering and STILL searching
for their *unanswered* heath problem.

>Subject: Thanks to Jan,,,,
>From: "Rod" deniecerod@hotmail.com
>Date: 7/31/02 7:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <00S19.49685$Hj3.148558@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>
>
>Hi to all,
>
>I wish to express gratitude to Jan for making me aware of Dental issues.
>I suffer from Rheumatoid Arthritis and have done so since 1994. Having this
>degenerative disease has forced changes on my lifestyle to a great extent
>since not being able to tolerate the medications that are often prescribed,
>My Doctor and Rheumatologist recommended that I find alternatives to
>medications which is why I frequent this Ng as well as others.
>Well I am happy to report that since early 1999 have I have not had to
>endure the agony of the previous five years and continue to make
>improvement. One of the major improvements was the taking of CMO (Cetyl
>Myristoleate)
>I found that this "Alternative" returned my knees to normal and allowed me
>to continue working.
>The matter of Dental Health was also addressed during the past year and I,
>with consent of my Dentist, changed over a three month period. the majority
>of my fillings to what is called "Composites"
>
>I am happy to report that since that change that my feet and hands have
>improved noticeably and that I suffer less with the morning stiffness so
>often associated with Rheumatoid Arthritis.
>I still maintain mercury fillings however they have been reduced by over 50%
>WITH THE DENTAL CHANGES.
>Strangely other people that I correspond with have also noted an improvement
>in their well being since changing their amalgams to composites.
>
>So a sincere "Thank you Jan" for making me look at the issues regarding
>Dental Health. Believe me I have implemented these things "Aussie" Style
>and have enjoyed the benefit despite the "she'll be right" attitude of my
>Dentist. (Amalgam flying everywhere)
>
>Deniece and I are to shortly visit Canada and the US during the next eight
>weeks and I am most thankful of being able to make this trip, due to
>improved health.
>
>Incidentally I won the trip in a competition and it included the Canadian
>Rockies tour as well as the Alaskan cruise. Wow! so we extend it all to
>include Hawaii , North West USA and Hong Kong.
>
>So good things still happen which makes it all so much worthwhile.
>
>Many thanks Jan,
>
>Sincerely, Rod
>============================
>
>Jan - don't let them get you down. You never know how many people you
>reach who don't say anything.
>You are so right - amalgams and root canals. The cancer of
>dentistry. Keep up the good work. My
>compliments to you on your even tempered and thorough response. Some
>people just don't want to
>learn because they know they will have to radically change their dental
>practice if they are convinced
>of the error of their ways. And some people like bbb just scream about
>anything. They will never learn.
>But others will - and you are reaching them.
>
>Good Work!
>=============================
>
>I have read a lot of your postings with great interest. From other sources
>on
>the internet that I read, what you say is correct. I am 58 years and have
>had
>4 root canals and about 6 crowns done on my teeth. Now, one of the root
>canal/crowns is flaring up with an infection at the tip of the root. First
>time in my life, something like this has happened.
>
>At my age, my teeth have started cracking. In light of what has been
>researched and written, I see no reason to continue on with modern dentistry.
>
>I will get the tooth pulled. The idea is to not have any more root canals or
>crowns. Just start pulling and in the years ahead, get false teeth. When I
>run out of enough natural teeth.
>
>You were very brave to do your postings on the internet. I commend you for
>them.
>
>===========================
>Subject: Kudos to Jan Drew
>From: "Lance Mannion" lancemannion@nospam.net
>Date: 11/12/02 9:57 AM US Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <7F8A9.27789$y45.97195204@news.primus.ca>
>
>Long time lurker, first time poster.
>
>I have watched with amusement the idiocy of the dentists here on
>this NG, especially Joel, who attack Jan, and ignore her postings.
>The power of "groupthink" is quite amazing when viewing it from
>the outside as an unbiased observer.
>
>It is particularly amusing how powerful bias can be, when a group
>cannot recognize that something that is hazardous waste by the
>EPA's definition, is ok in the mouth. This should at least open
>one's mind to the *possibility* that amalgams are hazardous in
>*some* (not all) people. But noooooooo, the supposedly educated
>dental professionals here are all-knowing.
>
>I am a well educated, reasonable person, with a background in
>statistics. I had my amalgams out, and yes, it did cure several
>lifelong, chronic health conditions. It was *not* easy, and in
>fact, is probably a risky procedure, since you do expose yourself
>to lots of Hg upon removal. The detox has taken a long time, and
>has been extremely unpleasant.
>
>Re: Rich's postings - it is possible that some of Jan's improvement
>was due to placebo. Heck, I felt better immediately after my amalgam
>removal. That quickly changed as the Hg flooded into my body. Even
>if Jan had some improvement due to placebo, that doesn't preclude
>her from having Hg poisoning.
>
>Re: Joel - this guy is an idiot. His posts do nothing for the credibility
>of the "pro amalgam" side. I don't think he could handle a real debate.
>All he does is post stupid articles and one-liners - what a dolt !
>
>So Jan, keep up the good work, fight the good fight. Time will prove
>us correct. Don't give up. It's tough, and usually lonely, being on the
>cutting edge, and going against the conventional wisdom
>
>===============================
>> Lance,
>>
>> Kudos to you for trying to argue with this crowd. Last year I posted
>> some questions here and was promptly attacked by the usual suspects. I
>> was surprised by their nastiness for a while, but a dentist I met at the
>> chelation clinic explained how scared the dentists are regarding this
>> issue. Essentially those who attack you have one single objective:
>> cover their gluteus max. They know they will be sued the hell out of
>> them soon, and are trying their obnoxious best to delay the inevitable.
>>
>> I had 17-year slow downward spiral that was only stopped last year by
>> taking out amalgam fillings and going through chelation therapy. Only
>> now, after over a year of treatment, I feel physically well enough to do
>> some garden work and mentally well enough to work on math (current
>> study: stochastic differential equations). Short-term memory is also
>> recovering and I don't feel like I am living in the Twilight Zone
>> episodes anymore.
>>
>> Don't let these bozos annoy you, they just cannot help being themselves
>> when it comes their wallet.
>>
>> qborba
>
>P.S. And of course Kudos to Jan Drew. She did more service to
>> Hg-poisoned people than anyone else I know.
>============================
>Hi Jan
>
>Ive been reading some of your posts on alternative med support and now the
>dental site. I'll spare you my long story but ive had horrendous bilateral
>leg
>neuropathy from what I believe is Hg poisoning. Have had amalgams removed
>and
>done DMPS chelation with much improvement. Still have a ways to go but im
>getting there. Keep up the fight!
>
>And I have received a few others, and was asked not to post them as the
>poster
>didn't wish to be harassed by the dentists here.
>
>This one I received recently.
>
>
>
>The people on the NG seem very hostile. Chances are my dentist is dead, so
>I can't sue him, even if I wanted to. I have been suffering from something
>that the doctors can't explain. I had this filling put in 30 years
>ago. It seems to be corroding. Anyway, I've had this problem for 9
>years. I stumbled across a site that seemed to mimic exactly what my
>symptoms are. Can you tell me what your symptoms were. I feel like I'm
>dying but the doctors can't find out what's going on. Thanks for the web
>site address. Couldn't get on. I'll try later.
> thanx 4
>
> help
>
IF* you have an unanswered health problem,,,,,,,,CHECK THE TEETH!

NOT by a mainstream dentist, but an Alt. dentist who KNOWS the dangers of metal
in the mouth and root canals, and follows correct protocol.

I did, it saved my life.

Mercury is Poisonous.

There is NO safe form of Mercury in living tissue.

The mercury vapor from dental amalgam alone is a bigger source than all the
other sources together.

U151 identifies mercury as a toxic waste.

Mercury is also recovered from discarded products and wastes such as
chlor-alkali wastes, dental amalgams, fluorescent light tubes, electronic
devices, and others. The mercury is vaporized in a retort and collected by
condensation. Condensed mercury is then distilled to remove impurities.

***The Environmental Protection Agency is working to reduce the amount of
mercury
in the environment *****

http://www.ehs.ucsf.edu/Manuals/CSM/Csm_Chapter9.htm

17. DENTAL AMALGAM

Dental amalgams are mixtures of mercury with silver tin alloy. Cal-EPA
regulates them as ***chemical waste.*** Submit Chemical Waste Removal Form for
its disposal.

Jan

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