Re: Frugal Medical Clinic to close ........ (Crossposted 3 groups)

From: Jan (jdrew63929_at_aol.com)
Date: 12/26/04 

Date: 26 Dec 2004 19:16:25 GMT

>Subject: Re: Frugal Medical Clinic to close ........ (Crossposted 3 groups)
>From: "Mark Probert" MarkProbert@lumbercartel.com
>Date: 12/26/2004 8:49 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <U_Bzd.5569$%15.2285@fe08.lga

Mark unblocked since I dsiscovered the setup between him and Nidiffer spreading
lies on smd.

>"Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote in message
>news:Qctzd.3107$F67.1344@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>> "Mark Probert" <Mark Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
>> news:Gxkzd.5521$ki3.3561@fe08.l
ga...

>> <snip>

>I stated that even bringing it up is a threat, and I maintain that
>> position.
>> > It is clear that it is my O P I N I O N.

>> Sorry, my opinion differs...

>No need to apologize. However, you should realize that thee are different
>cultures in various newsgroups and perhaps look to see where the posts are
>going.

>> I have seen too many nut cases (no, I am not referring to you) who just
>> love
>> > to jump and tattle to ISPs and mail services. This thread is crossposted
>> to
>> > misc.health.alternative where a Jan Drew posts, and she tattled on
Jan Drew posts, and she tattled on Joel
>> > instead of dealing with it.

Drop the word tattled.

I did deal with it.

Joel was impersonating me and crossposting to newsgroups I never heard of, then
signing my name.

Therefore when one does a search on jdrew63929, his stupid posts are included.

I dealt with it by sending the posts with his very own words.

I was given the run around, but I presisted, had to even send in a pic of my
driver licenses to prove I was the real Jan Drew.

His account was closed based on HIS words sent with full headers.

Then he crossed the line again, and based on the above, it was closed also.

Mark defends Joel because liars stick together.

> Another poster, from outside of the US was tattled on and this affected
> her ISP service,

Drop the word tattled, you child.

Truth is she received a warning.

Further truth is, she was way out of line.

She was also paranoid from a very bad exprience from her former husband.

Mark knows nothing about this, however she confided in me, and I can see why
she sometimes flips out and goes over board.

That is however no excuse for the lies she told.

>since she resides where there is only one service. Again, there are those in
m.h.a. who supported that action.

Yes, I never support lies being told about others.

>> I don't have a problem if someone "tattles" to an ISP about someone else
>*as long as it is a legit complaint*.

>I do, depending on what constitutes the complaint. All legitimate complaints
>are not created equally, and, the response to them should be reflective of
>the issue. Thus, a clearly criminal action with significan trisk of
>immediate hard does qulaify for a>complaint to the ISP

Correct.

>However, other
>things which may violate someone's sense of right and wrong need not
>necessarily result in a complaint.

The ISP decides based on the offending parties own words.

<snip repeated>

>but I
>> know that Joel has been asked repeatedly to stop crossposting and posting
off topic among other things. He cocks an attitude and refuses to go along
>> with everyone else in the NG.

>So what?

So HE should CHANGE his behavior.

Even his peers don't like it.

<snip Mar's attempt to blame everyone except Joel>

> I am not saying that *I* would turn him in, but I sure wouldn't feel sorry
>> for him if someone else did.

>I would be outraged if someone did for what you say are his "crimes

Poor Mark, let's end this right here and now:

From: "Marla Maples" <marla_map...@hotmail.com>
To: i...@san.rr.com
Subject: Listserv?
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 06:50:44 -0800
Good morning!
I am a woman who was harmed by breast implants. I had them removed, but I am
still sick with FM and CFS.
I read the newsgroup where you are medciless atacked. I feel so sorry for
you.
I see that you have a support listserv. Can I sign up? That way, I can avoid
reading all that horrible stuff.
Marla Maples
Medford, OR

This is Mark's style, that's how he get himself in trouble, then blames
everyone but himself.

Jan

Always Putting the Blame on Others. For some people, the first reaction to a
problem is to find someone to blame. Blaming is a defense mechanism to avoid
taking personal responsibility for the situation. The blamer rapidly finds
fault in the other person and criticizes them. Trying to find a solution to the
problem is much better than looking for someone to blame. Blaming is a pattern
in some families that keeps people from becoming closer. People who blame
others or situations without taking responsibility for their contribution to
the problem never get the sense of satisfaction of growth. By refusing to see
their own errors, they lose the opportunity to change the very aspects of
themselves that keep them stuck.

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