Re: The Prosperity of the Mercury-Free Dentist
From: Jan (jdrew63929_at_aol.com)
Date: 01/16/05
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Date: 16 Jan 2005 18:29:02 GMT
>Subject: The Prosperity of the Mercury-Free Dentist
>From: Keith P Walsh keith.p.wa...@btinternet.com
>Date: 1/16/2005 4:21 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <dmmku01c43o0fdgqm7o2g1gonjkef86...@4ax.com>
Thanks Keith.
This should set off the blathering Joel Eichen.
So I'll post Han's posts to Joel, with an addition of Dr Steve's post below.
>The following picture shows 141 Whitworth Road in Rochdale, England,
>which in 1992 was the premises of the dental practice of Dr John
>Roberts (B.Ch.D):
>http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/keith.p.wa...@btinternet.com/detail?...
>It is a small terraced property by the side of the road in a
>dilapidated part of Greater Manchester.
>However, in 1992 Dr Roberts was one of a number of practising dental
>surgeons who appeared on the "recommended" list compiled by UK
>mercury-free dentistry "guru" Dr Jack Levenson of the Brompton dental
>clinic in London:
>http://fluoride.oralhealth.org/papers/2001/londontimes110401.htm
>At that time Dr Levenson operated a consultancy from his office in
>Welbeck Street, W1, and would routinely recommend to his clients
>(usually people with concerns about their health) that they should
>have the mercury-based (amalgam) dental fillings removed from their
>teeth.
>Dr Roberts in Rochdale was one the dentists which Dr Levenson would
>"approve" for carrying out the work of removing his clents' amalgam
>fillings.
>During or shortly after 1992 Dr Roberts declared his own practice
>"mercury-free", and his patients were advised to register with an
>alternative dentist by the office of the local health authority in
>Rochdale.
>Today Dr Roberts' practice is based at Cote Royd House in West
>Yorkshire - a picture of which can be seen at:
>http://www.integratedhealthpractice.com/>
>It is a large victorian villa set in its own grounds in a leafy suburb
>of Huddersfield.
>When you compare this picture with the picture of Dr Roberts' previous
>premises it appears reasonable to presume that Dr Roberts is currently
>in the middle of a very prosperous career.
>I think it is also accurate to declare that Dr Roberts' success is
>partly (if not largely) due to the fact that he has charged
>significant numbers of patients for removing fillings from their
>mouths which authorities such as the British Dental Association and
>the UK National Health Service would argue had "nothing wrong with
>them".
>And it appears that there is nothing that the British Dental
>Association can do to discredit Dr Roberts' "mercury-free" practice.
>Is it possible that Dr Roberts' prosperity is in fact due to his
>having successfully restored and/or preserved large numbers of his
>patients' sense of well-being?
>Keith P Walsh
====
I hope most open-minded people will view Joel's attempts to characterise the
PHS report as
proving that amalgams are safe, as a gross misrepresentation of the facts.
People who rely
on professionals to know their stuff, deserve better.
Hi Judge Joel,
You are representing the most prejudicial attitude I saw in a
long time. Did you get that from being a judge during the witch-
processes in a former life, or what?
Either you are grossly misinformed or you are intentionally
spreading blatant lies.
Hans
=====
Dear Dr. Eichen,
>> It's unfortunate that you don't have anything more constructive to do
>> with your life other than amusing yourself and your colleague dentists
>> by doing internet searches of my name. Am I really that important? I'm
>> flattered!!!
>> The bridge incident was no a laughing matter, it was police abuse. For
>> your information, the "bridge" incident was overturned by an honest
>> judge in superior court, who was outraged by the police action.
>> I recommend that you do something more constructive and positive with
>> your time to help humanity. Why don't you help your colleagues by
>> informing them of the truth about the toxicity of their daily exposure
>> to mercury from working with amalgam, including your own exposure.
>Yep, well said. She nailed you good.
>> Frankly, you're an embarrassment to your profession and a danger to
>> the public if you are placing mercury amalgam fillings. Haven't you
>> read the most recent reports from Sweden, Norway and other countries
>> who have for years warned against placing amalgam fillings in children
>> and pregnant women.... these countries are banning the use of mercury
>> amalgams.
Refer your colleagues to WWW.TOXICTEETH.ORG, WWW.TESTFOUNDATION.ORG,
>> WWW.IAOMT.ORG, http://www.home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/indexa.html,
>> and give them the studies which show that dentists have the highest
>> rate of suicide professionaly in this country.
>> I suggest you keep up with the significant news of the day.....or are
>> you still reading comic books.
===
To everyone who do not understand why Joel wants to make
a complete fool out of himself,
Wrong again ! Show me where I ever used the word "tweezers" !
If you cannot support your repeated allegations I can only
conclude you made a pretty big fool out of yourself - again !
Cheers,
Hans
Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>The readers will decide!
Indeed !
The fun part is that this is all about your mind - what
you thought that I said. Sofar you have not been able
to point out anything, in spite of all your re-postings,
to support what you claim I said. And I'm still waiting!
Hans
Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>At least we settled ...
I've been settling fine all along. I am waiting for you to prove
that your allegations are right. Or to watch you trying to
wiggle your way of this. So Joel, which one will it be?
Joel wrote:
>Hans said Dentatus should be inserted, preferably with tweezers
Hans replied:
>Not with one word did I reveal how I work with the Dentatus. Not
>one single word! Neither did I mention the word "tweezers" !
Still waiting ....
Hans
Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>Funny. Hans turning the circumstance around . . . .
That was a nice attempt to wiggle. What's next?
Sill waiting for you to prove that your allegations are right.
Or to keep on watching you wiggle until you smoke yourself.
Which one is next? Smoke or standard smokescreen?
Hans
Everything else here is Joel's attempts to make a huge
smokescreen so no one will spot him in his attempts to
pry his foot out of his mouth. Thats all there is
>Nelson wrote:
>>I had to unblock Joel to remove his expected excuse for attacking me
>>non-public in private e-mail and copied the following to see his style in
>>the group for all to see. As usual, he ignors the question asked and starts
>>quoting the same BS.
>>I never said what you state below I said. Let me rephrase the question.
>>Are you saying mercury does no hard to the human body? NOw that is the
>>question, Joel. Please a simple answer. If the government agencies, "CDC,
>>USPHS and 53 dental schools" say something, it means it is absolutely the
>>truth? What an obsurd correlation made by you.
>>Notice how the comment by LD Pankey was taken completely out of context. A
>>quote of a man was given about whether a person can change much (I was
>>referring to you, Joel) and you make the ignorant statement you did about
>>what he taught. Precisely because you have not studied what he taught and
>>yet have a strong judgement against him shows your ignorance and predjudice.
>>Do not put words in my mouth or characterize what I saw differently than
>>actually said for your own means. I believe the reason the CDC, USPHS,
>>being government agencies, will err on the side of caution before they state
>>that amalgam is harmful. Quite frankly, I do not think it a lot more
>>harmful than the air breathed in Southern California. This doesn't make the
>>air in Southern California clean, though. I suppose you are an expert on
>>the air in Southern California and will state that since the air quality is
>>in "acceptable limits" and there isn't a cig alert (limit activities and
>>stay inside as much as possible) that there is nothing wrong with the air.
>>I choose to not do amalgams because I believe the difference between them
>>and today's resins (less than 1/3 the occl table) are not significant enough
>>to place a known toxin in someones mouth. This is a personal decision. I
>>also do a lot of gold work and, probably unlike you Joel, I trust my
>>patients and they pay me $50 a month and we do good dentistry.
>>I am blocking you from my personal e-mail access, but will let the newsgroup
>>stay open for a while so you can prove why you are probably the most blocked
>>smd user of all time. I respect your right to state an opinion, I just
>>don't have to read it.
>>Other comments in text:
Subject: Re: Outta here for awhile
From: "Dr. Steve" smancus.take...@home.msen.com
Date: 3/18/03 10:17 PM US Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <v7fo43feqok...@corp.supernews.com>
See Joel???
Your constant ridiculous cross posting of stuff no one but you is interested
in has driven more people off this forum. Before long. it will be just the
Eichen cross posting news.
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