Re: adult invisalign orthodontics in Honolulu

From: Joel M. Eichen (joeleichen_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 03/28/05 

Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 06:29:20 -0500

Very impressive analysis. Thanks.
I learned lots and I am a dentist!

Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.

On 28 Mar 2005 01:21:23 -0800, "prospectivegeek" <y9047mt1@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>$1500 is the typical lab fee, which can go south if your orthodontist
>has good contacts or has sent several orders. As a good ballpark, 12
>months of these removable braces cost your orthodontist about
>$2000-3000, depending on the complexity of the treatment. If the lab
>charges were $3000, either the orthodontist got ripped off, or the
>orthodontist is not telling you the truth. If the total cost of
>treatment in 12 months goes beyond $5000, you are being completely
>ripped off.
>
>With regular braces, the orthodontist incurs a very low cost. Check any
>orthodontic suppliers and add up the cost of everything. The total cost
>of appliances comes to well below $1000 per patient. The rest is their
>profit, which they will tell you goes towards equipment, paying their
>employees and sprucing up their offices. With Invisalign, their total
>costs are higher. Hence they charge you more to maintain their profits.
>
>The Invisalign technique transforms orthodontia. In fact, the patient
>does not really need an orthodontist. The company could send the
>patients the impression trays and create the braces for them. The issue
>that prevents direct service to the patient is legal liability.
>Invisalign avoids lawsuits as the orthodontist sends them the treatment
>plan and impressions. If anything goes wrong, the patient will sue the
>orthodontist, not the company. Invisalign needs the orthodontists to
>survive and thrive. Hence they won't tell you the real costs involved.
>The orthodontists will make your treatment sound very complicated when
>they speak to you, so they can charge you well beyond the cost of the
>treatment. The two websites that have been mentioned in this thread
>reveal some of the realities behind the cost of Invisalign.
>
>After visiting several orthodontists, I realized they were far from
>being truthful. While I am not qualified as an orthodontist, I can use
>my brains. I have researched for hours online and through texts from
>the dental school library. Mine was a simple bite problem and I could
>write my own treatment plan, perhaps execute too, if only I had the
>equipment. I would ask each orthodontist for a treatment plan and I
>realized how full of sh** they were. The first thing they did was check
>up my insurance and the place I worked. Once they figured out how much
>I could pay, they gave me huge estimates and a complicated treatment
>plans. After I had enough knowledge about Invisalign, I went to several
>orthodontists who claimed to treat with Invisalign. They were bluffing
>me too. I finally got my Invisalign braces through an orthodontist who
>owes me. My treatment is progressing well and I am glad to share this
>here.
>
>
>
>
>Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:40:06 GMT, "Dr Steve" <nospam@home.net> wrote:
>>
>> >I just shared dinner last night with an orthodontist. (We were
>celebrating
>> >someone's birthday.) He told me that the last Invisalgin case he
>got back
>> >had a $3000 lab fee.
>>
>> WoW!

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