Re: Fluoride treatments

NOYB wrote:

> Sure it does...and the evidence is overwhelming that it helps
> already-erupted teeth.

Overwhelming to you, but not to me.

> >> The pre-eruptive benefits are there, but not significant. The
> >> post-eruptive
> >> benefits of water fluoridation and topical application of fluoride are
> >> very
> >> significant and indisputable.
> >
> > This is your view. What is indeed "significant" is the influence of the
> > so-called "confounding variables"! Nothing else. And "indisputable"
> > means that you are not interested in any discussion. So why should I
> > elaborate? Just to be ignored for saying what nobody here wants to
> > hear/read? I´m not interested in wasting time. I´ll elaborate on that
> > elsewhere.
>
> Elsewhere? Elsewhere you have no hope in influencing a single person who
> matters. At least on sci.med.dentistry, you could conceivably convince a
> handful of dentists here, who could then pass your message along to several
> thousand patients each year. If you're afraid to try to make your case
> among educated professionals, I can certainly understand.

C´mon. I already convinced many dentists, not at smd, but in real life.
I have been talking at dental and medical congresses here. But to what
avail? I received letters saying that the dentists (and even physicians)
have been threatened by their local associations, or by their colleagues
(rethinking their referral practice). I have been told by others that it
is much more convenient to give topical fluoride applications instead of
denying it, for they had to explain their position to a patient which
costs time "which I am not paid for". Fluoride application is "standard
of care" nowadays, and if it is denied a patient might sue for neglect.
These are the arguments I usually hear from professionals. I gave up
trying to convince any of them anymore. I rather think they know
already, but prefer to act under the protection of their associations
(hidden in a group). It is very hard to change such a system.

Anyway, even the professionals here could easily go to my website and
read what I have to say, if they are really interested. I would also be
ready to have a reasonable discussion here or by email (my real email
address is available under "imprint" at my website).

> It's much easier
> to herd the uniformed masses via a website.

It is harder to "herd uninformed masses" than to talk to professionals.
BTW: my website does not just attract "uninformed masses". Read, just as
an example, the history chapter (online availabe) of "Fluorides in the
environment" (by Davison and Weinstein, 2004) which makes rather
extensive use of it (although somewhat selective).


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