Re: Wake Up Call For Sue
- From: "Clinton" <clintonz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 24 Oct 2005 19:19:05 -0700
Sue wrote:
> Jan,
>
> Perhaps people would react more kindly to your plight if you
> demonstrated more credibility in your demeanor
> credibility and in the content of your posts. You can list articles
> until
> you are blue in the face but these are meaningless unless you can
> demonstrate that you have an understanding of what you are reading.
>
> I think you may be doing harm to vulnerable people by acting as as
> though you know as much or more then a medical professional.
have you been reading any of the posts on this list? Most of
the medical professionals, I.e the dentists dispay the mental
age of kindergartners. I also see you haven't been to an
HMO lately
>
> But the sad truth is, you are right. I am not very interested in
> hearing what you have to say anymore. You do not sound credible. Mostly
> you: bash others, scream out about how stupid the medical and
> dental professions are, claim people are stalking you, and call people
> liars. To put it bluntly, you sound and act insane Jan. It is difficult
> to take you seriously.
The truth is that I spent a whole thread going into minute detail
about physics problems. We've tried posting calmly and angrily,
joking and crying, but it makes no differnce. To the brainwashed
public, calm posts are brushed off easily, and more forceful,
emphatic posting is characterized as lunacy. It's a 100% brain
wash zone.
Furthermore you seem to have overlooked that one of the symptoms
of Hg posioning is madness and permanent neruological damage.
Your logic would be like me telling a drunk, I don't think you
are inebriated, your slur your words so you must be crazy. when
you talk to me in a clearheaded and sober manner then i will believe
your story about being drunk! You can't have it both
ways Sue, expect, even demand someone to act Hg toxic to be truely
credible then require them to post like they are perfectly healthy.
Maybe at some time in the future you will see the inherent hypocrisy in
your stance, though I do agree that some of Jan's posts are over the
top and may at times take away from the credablity of the issue.
>
> And you wrote:
>
..
>
>
> I do not doubt that mercury poisoning exists (in a small minority of
> the population). Yet Jan, you do not have the credentials to make
> diagnoses for others who are ill from undetermined causes.
This show your ignorance on the subject. as I posted before
in published research chronic Hg posioning is extremely difficult
to diagnose. So,.. what I am saying is that your assumption that
somehow only doctors can speak to this issue is wrong. most were
only taught enough toxicology to fit in a thimble. My GP actually
told me that! I put all people equal and commonsense and research
first. Automatically placing uninformed MD's and defensive (and yes
lying denists) above commonsense and patients is a big error in your
reasoning process.
>
> I have it be honest with you. I AM concerned about those who suffer
> from unexplained illnesses. Many are desperate for answers and will
> believe any crack-pot that comes along. You seem confident that you, a
> self-proclaimed victim of Hg poisoning (it appears) have all of the
> answers for these people.
This is a complex issue. Obviously no one can know everything about
me or Jan or any poster on the list who claims one thing or the
other. Anyone could be a lunatic, including you. But if you do
the research you will see that there are many people who have
been affected , inluding MD's and dentists who write books about it.
You are placing the burden of proof on the patient, which is where
I disagree with your thought process. you should be asking, not
what the patient can do to prove thier case, BUT what the dental
association can do to prove safety (they haven't even come close).
Jan also never said that most people should get their amalgams
removed. That is a calculated mischaracterization by you, designed to
short circuit any real discussion. Obviously many people "appear to be
healthy", but some are more affected by excessive corrosion, faulty
product, whatever method. This should be taken as a warning to people
with ordianry levels of Hg smoking off their amalgam (yes it does smoke
under ultraviolet light) like a canary in the mineshaft.
And you shifting of assumptions from one extreme to the other, by
saying that Jan's comments endanger the public, when they don't and
CAN"t if dental associations are honest to begin with, doesn't sit well
with me either, frankly.
>
> THAT is what I find scary and disturbing.
>
> You wrote.
>
> "Go back to sleep, Sue, and do not give another thought to anyone who
> might be poisoned, I wouldn't want to disturb your comfortable world."
>
> OK then. You have thoroughly convinced me. This is a great ex. of how
> to shut off communications and turn people completely OFF to your
> intended messages Jan.
>
>
> I sincerely hope that you end up saving more people (as you say) than
> causing harm to those who are vulnerable and hurting.
>
> Now I prefer to take your advice Jan, and ignore you from now on. And
> please do not address me in any of your future posts either.
I.E when all is said and done shoot the messenger and return to
the tride and true doctor worship, after you've shifted the burden
of proof 100% onto them and given the ludicrous scientifc position
of the ADA a free pass. It feels good doesn't it, to think you are
with the majority and the "authority" ! But your not
fooling anyone, you never were "listening" to begin with! Good day!
>
> Thank you,
> -Sue
.
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