Re: The Dr. K Book

drkulacz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Tony Bad wrote:

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Tony Bad wrote:

To T (whatever your real name actually is we will never know since you
are not brave enough to post it):


I have read here that you called a few offices yelling at people and acting
like an ass...I don't need that from you or anyone else. I didn't call your
office to discuss this...you brought it here, so lets continue it here. And
why should it matter who I am anyway? That approach always comes up when
someone is feeling a bit uncomfortable. You have put yourself into the
public eye, with your web sites and publications. I have no such desire for
notoriety. If you don't want to deal with anonymous people, stay off the
internet.



I have called ONE dentist, Steve from Brooklyn,(his phone number was
listed here) but I certainly did not yell at him and I would like to
know how I "acted like an ass." In fact I thought that we had a
pleasant conversation.

I can confirm that my conversation was cordial and professional. I have no doubt that Dr. Kulacz is sincere in his beliefs, and while it is true that much of his effort is tied up in this issue and he therefore feels strongly about it, I certainly did not feel any personal animosity despite the fact that we don't agree in this area.
I think it is too easy to demonize those we don't agree with, and perhaps a little of this has happened on both sides.
My feeling is that whatever you may think about the substance of Dr. Kulacz's thesis, there is no doubt that he is a caring professional who has put his professional neck on the line to stick up for what he believes in. I think that his anger at dentistry should be viewed in the context of what he has been through professionally.

Steve


Maybe the dentist that you say I contacted can shed some light here
because that is not what happenned.I would be interested to find out
who you are referring to and what they said my actions were.
The reason that I called him is that these forums are so impersonal and
sometimes the written word is not as clear in intent as the spoken
word.

I came on this forum and posted because somebody was looking for my
contact data. That is how it started.

I have been dealing with dentists that do not understand this issue for
years. I stopped trying to offer information because the result was
always a closed mind and denial even in the face of their former
patients getting better.. This is where my perception of dentists was
formed.

After the post that says I called dentists on this forum and yelled and
acted like ass, it is clear that this will go nowhere but down.

Good luck to you all.
Godspeed.
RK






I have used more than one lab. And I have had similar reports given on
my biopsy. I have also used about 3 different labs for culture and
sensitivity. All report similar findings.
Have you ever done a biopsy or culture?
I bet the answer is no. If no, then why not?  How are you forming an
opinion on this subject without reading all of  the data?


Okay, I'll take your word on that, but every example in your book went
through a single lab...the same lab that seems to be associated with
virtually every one of these types of cases Given your proximity to other
fine pathology labs, just seemed odd that your work would go through one
many miles away.

...and again with the "I have done it, bet you haven't" crap...are you
really that insecure that you need to believe anyone who disagrees with you
is stupid? Grow up...you are acting like a 6 year old!


I would think that you would want to know about this subject since it
impacts the health of the patients you are treating. I am not saying
that everyone with a root canal will become ill, but some people will.
Therefore if this possibility is not presented to the patient then it
is lack of informed consent. A root canal tooth is is a dead infected
body part in the bone of the maxilla or mandible. A person may become
ill right away or some time removed from the root canal procedure
depending upon factors such as the health of the patients immune
system, other physical ailments, the pathogenicity of the bacteria
present, as well as a host of other factors.

The answer to the root canal issue causing or contributing to atypical
facial pain or a variety of systemic diseases has been published
extensively for almost 100 years in both the medical and dental
literature. As I have suggested numerous times, look it up.  It is all
there. The fact is that root canal teeth remain infected  whether the
root canal procedure is performed by an endodontist with the highest
level of clinical skill, or a dentist with average skill. The tooth is
porous like a sponge due to the composition of dentin which is composed
of dentin tubules. Bacteria live in these tubules, accessory canals,
the main canals (which about 90% of the time still have necrotic
material left in the apical 3 mm.after root canal completion).   Also,
the infection can travel to the surrounding bone causing chronic
osteomyelitis and sometimes osteonecrosis.

Some people will become ill and some will not. Many times the causation
of systemic disease being linked to  a root canal is missed because
dentists continue to propogate the wrong assumption that root canal
teeth cannot be the cause of a systemic disease or atypical facial
pain.  Many times the patiets with atypical facial pain are referred by
a dentist, to an internest, then to a neurologist and put on
medications such as neurontin. I have seen MANY of these patients and
most of the time I can complete their history for them at the exam
appointment because so many people have the same similar story.

I do not see why you cannot see this with the abundance of information
available. If you cannot find it then there is no point in continuing a
discussion because you lack the knowledge of the subject. Again, I
would think that you would want to know more about this instead of
blindly calling my statements false.

Amatus and T have never answered the questions asked regarding mercury,
anesthetic, infection etc.  Simple questions about dentistry/medicine
that you should know without having to look up the answers. That was
the point of my original post and you prove me correct.

T, you called some of your collegues a**h*l*s on the thread about the
problem a person had with two dentists in a row. I guess you do not
think too highly of some of your peers or you would not have said that.


You are right, I don't give my colleagues automatic respect simply because
we share the same educational degree. And I also agree with you that a good
number of our dental colleagues are unconcerned and uneducated about many
important topics. While we agree on these points, I don't think all that
much of anyone who would just assume anyone who has a dissenting view from
his is stupid, greedy, or unconcerned. Since you seem unable to have any
exchange without condemning others as stupid, greedy, or unconcerned, and
devoted a significant portion of your book to this subject,  I must add you
to the list of colleagues I hold in low regard. Your continued reliance on
hyperbole and insults suggests that you are lacking in confidence about your
views, as you are always on the attack...assuming no one has tread the same
ground as you.

I have asked you some very simple questions, and you are unwilling to
answer, so I will ask again. You indicate root canal therapy as a danger,
yet
I have looked through your web site, your published work, your book, and
find no case studies that offer conclusive support for your position. Many
of the examples in your book appear little different from the kind of
testimonials I see on late night TV infomercials. A lot of hype but no
substance. I find little or no reason to bother with someone who takes a
strong stance on a subject, and then uses case studies that don't support
that stance. Your dramatic photo essay about a man's fall into poor health
following root canal therapy was undoubtedly very dramatic and influential
for the casual viewer, but it was a botched procedure. It was done wrong. In
my opinion, using that as your foremost example on the evils of endodontic
care is deceptive and misleading.

If you don't have an answer to my question, just ignore it and we'll both
move on. I really don't want you to waste your time telling me how stupid I
am yet again. I get your point. Otherwise, tell me where I can find case
studies that support your theories. I'd love to see them.

T 




--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
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