Re: The Dr. K Book
- From: drkulacz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: 14 Nov 2005 13:47:43 -0800
Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:
> drkulacz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Tony Bad wrote:
> >
> >><drkulacz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>news:1131930477.933346.215180@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>>Tony Bad wrote:
> >>>
> >>>To T (whatever your real name actually is we will never know since you
> >>>are not brave enough to post it):
> >>>
> >>
> >>I have read here that you called a few offices yelling at people and acting
> >>like an ass...I don't need that from you or anyone else. I didn't call your
> >>office to discuss this...you brought it here, so lets continue it here. And
> >>why should it matter who I am anyway? That approach always comes up when
> >>someone is feeling a bit uncomfortable. You have put yourself into the
> >>public eye, with your web sites and publications. I have no such desire for
> >>notoriety. If you don't want to deal with anonymous people, stay off the
> >>internet.
> >
> >
> > I have called ONE dentist, Steve from Brooklyn,(his phone number was
> > listed here) but I certainly did not yell at him and I would like to
> > know how I "acted like an ass." In fact I thought that we had a
> > pleasant conversation.
>
> I can confirm that my conversation was cordial and professional. I
> have no doubt that Dr. Kulacz is sincere in his beliefs, and while it is
> true that much of his effort is tied up in this issue and he therefore
> feels strongly about it, I certainly did not feel any personal animosity
> despite the fact that we don't agree in this area.
> I think it is too easy to demonize those we don't agree with, and
> perhaps a little of this has happened on both sides.
> My feeling is that whatever you may think about the substance of Dr.
> Kulacz's thesis, there is no doubt that he is a caring professional who
> has put his professional neck on the line to stick up for what he
> believes in. I think that his anger at dentistry should be viewed in
> the context of what he has been through professionally.
>
> Steve
Thank-you for clearing this up Steve. I appreciate your post.
To a previous post by Tony:
Yes, of course James Earl Jones wrote the forward. If you read it you
would know.
I will leave the other posts by other dentists alone as they again
attempt to insult me.
Best to all,
RK
>
>
> > Maybe the dentist that you say I contacted can shed some light here
> > because that is not what happenned.I would be interested to find out
> > who you are referring to and what they said my actions were.
> > The reason that I called him is that these forums are so impersonal and
> > sometimes the written word is not as clear in intent as the spoken
> > word.
> >
> > I came on this forum and posted because somebody was looking for my
> > contact data. That is how it started.
> >
> > I have been dealing with dentists that do not understand this issue for
> > years. I stopped trying to offer information because the result was
> > always a closed mind and denial even in the face of their former
> > patients getting better.. This is where my perception of dentists was
> > formed.
> >
> > After the post that says I called dentists on this forum and yelled and
> > acted like ass, it is clear that this will go nowhere but down.
> >
> > Good luck to you all.
> > Godspeed.
> > RK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>>I have used more than one lab. And I have had similar reports given on
> >>>my biopsy. I have also used about 3 different labs for culture and
> >>>sensitivity. All report similar findings.
> >>>Have you ever done a biopsy or culture?
> >>>I bet the answer is no. If no, then why not? How are you forming an
> >>>opinion on this subject without reading all of the data?
> >>
> >>Okay, I'll take your word on that, but every example in your book went
> >>through a single lab...the same lab that seems to be associated with
> >>virtually every one of these types of cases Given your proximity to other
> >>fine pathology labs, just seemed odd that your work would go through one
> >>many miles away.
> >>
> >>...and again with the "I have done it, bet you haven't" crap...are you
> >>really that insecure that you need to believe anyone who disagrees with you
> >>is stupid? Grow up...you are acting like a 6 year old!
> >>
> >>
> >>>I would think that you would want to know about this subject since it
> >>>impacts the health of the patients you are treating. I am not saying
> >>>that everyone with a root canal will become ill, but some people will.
> >>>Therefore if this possibility is not presented to the patient then it
> >>>is lack of informed consent. A root canal tooth is is a dead infected
> >>>body part in the bone of the maxilla or mandible. A person may become
> >>>ill right away or some time removed from the root canal procedure
> >>>depending upon factors such as the health of the patients immune
> >>>system, other physical ailments, the pathogenicity of the bacteria
> >>>present, as well as a host of other factors.
> >>>
> >>>The answer to the root canal issue causing or contributing to atypical
> >>>facial pain or a variety of systemic diseases has been published
> >>>extensively for almost 100 years in both the medical and dental
> >>>literature. As I have suggested numerous times, look it up. It is all
> >>>there. The fact is that root canal teeth remain infected whether the
> >>>root canal procedure is performed by an endodontist with the highest
> >>>level of clinical skill, or a dentist with average skill. The tooth is
> >>>porous like a sponge due to the composition of dentin which is composed
> >>>of dentin tubules. Bacteria live in these tubules, accessory canals,
> >>>the main canals (which about 90% of the time still have necrotic
> >>>material left in the apical 3 mm.after root canal completion). Also,
> >>>the infection can travel to the surrounding bone causing chronic
> >>>osteomyelitis and sometimes osteonecrosis.
> >>>
> >>>Some people will become ill and some will not. Many times the causation
> >>>of systemic disease being linked to a root canal is missed because
> >>>dentists continue to propogate the wrong assumption that root canal
> >>>teeth cannot be the cause of a systemic disease or atypical facial
> >>>pain. Many times the patiets with atypical facial pain are referred by
> >>>a dentist, to an internest, then to a neurologist and put on
> >>>medications such as neurontin. I have seen MANY of these patients and
> >>>most of the time I can complete their history for them at the exam
> >>>appointment because so many people have the same similar story.
> >>>
> >>>I do not see why you cannot see this with the abundance of information
> >>>available. If you cannot find it then there is no point in continuing a
> >>>discussion because you lack the knowledge of the subject. Again, I
> >>>would think that you would want to know more about this instead of
> >>>blindly calling my statements false.
> >>>
> >>>Amatus and T have never answered the questions asked regarding mercury,
> >>>anesthetic, infection etc. Simple questions about dentistry/medicine
> >>>that you should know without having to look up the answers. That was
> >>>the point of my original post and you prove me correct.
> >>>
> >>>T, you called some of your collegues a**h*l*s on the thread about the
> >>>problem a person had with two dentists in a row. I guess you do not
> >>>think too highly of some of your peers or you would not have said that.
> >>
> >>You are right, I don't give my colleagues automatic respect simply because
> >>we share the same educational degree. And I also agree with you that a good
> >>number of our dental colleagues are unconcerned and uneducated about many
> >>important topics. While we agree on these points, I don't think all that
> >>much of anyone who would just assume anyone who has a dissenting view from
> >>his is stupid, greedy, or unconcerned. Since you seem unable to have any
> >>exchange without condemning others as stupid, greedy, or unconcerned, and
> >>devoted a significant portion of your book to this subject, I must add you
> >>to the list of colleagues I hold in low regard. Your continued reliance on
> >>hyperbole and insults suggests that you are lacking in confidence about your
> >>views, as you are always on the attack...assuming no one has tread the same
> >>ground as you.
> >>
> >>I have asked you some very simple questions, and you are unwilling to
> >>answer, so I will ask again. You indicate root canal therapy as a danger,
> >>yet
> >>I have looked through your web site, your published work, your book, and
> >>find no case studies that offer conclusive support for your position. Many
> >>of the examples in your book appear little different from the kind of
> >>testimonials I see on late night TV infomercials. A lot of hype but no
> >>substance. I find little or no reason to bother with someone who takes a
> >>strong stance on a subject, and then uses case studies that don't support
> >>that stance. Your dramatic photo essay about a man's fall into poor health
> >>following root canal therapy was undoubtedly very dramatic and influential
> >>for the casual viewer, but it was a botched procedure. It was done wrong. In
> >>my opinion, using that as your foremost example on the evils of endodontic
> >>care is deceptive and misleading.
> >>
> >>If you don't have an answer to my question, just ignore it and we'll both
> >>move on. I really don't want you to waste your time telling me how stupid I
> >>am yet again. I get your point. Otherwise, tell me where I can find case
> >>studies that support your theories. I'd love to see them.
> >>
> >>T
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
> http://www.dentaltwins.com
> Brooklyn, NY
> 718-258-5001
.
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