Re: Are these HMOs any good?

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:31:38 GMT, "Vaughn" <vaughnsimonHATESSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> BTW I think that 30% is an outrageous sum to ask of
>> any working person;
>
> I agree, but your President is giving the lion's share of his precious tax
>breaks to whom?

Ahem. If you are an American, he's your president too.
Tax breaks were given to everyone who pays taxes.

>
>>> Your choice; you are the boss of your practice and you get to define your
>>>own job description.
>>>
>>
>> Well thanks for that.
>> How *exactly* do * I* define my own job description ?
>> They didn't teach that in my particular dental school.
>> Wuz figgerin to train as a tooth carpenter.
>
> Like it or not, every owner of a practice is a CEO. I feel that Business
>should be a prerequisite for dental school and that practice management should
>be stressed. Why? Because it is impossible for a practice to provide
>consistently good patient care without proper organization and proper financial
>underpinnings. If you are not as much a businessman as a dentist, eventually
>your patients, your employees, and your family will suffer for it.
>>

CEO, CFO, janitor, fixit man, etc...

Problem is many dental educators are academics, and haven't
had much real world business experience.
The main goal is to teach the student enough to pass the
state and national boards.
Business was low on the totem pole when I was in school.

>>>> It takes a CPA and a JD to just understand the basics.
>>>
>>> Respectfully...bullshit. It is easier to understand than the particulars
>>>of a typical DHMO plan.
>>>
>> Well in reciprocal respect, what the *heck* does that mean ?
>> Perhaps you are one of the 3% that actually reads a policy.
>
> How does that invalidate what I was saying. People don't read policies
>because they find them hard to read. I invite you to read the AFLAC pamphlet on
>the medical pretax plan and compare it to a spectrum of dental policies and
>report back to the group.
>>

OK, when I have extra time.


>> Really ? Worth thousands to me ?
>> You need to educate the employers and employees as to their benefits.
>> Can not co-ordinate anyone's dental "benefits".
>> Am too busy fixing peoples dental problems.
>
> Like I said several times; your choice.
>
>> Funny that you put the onus on *my* financial consequences with no
>> thought to the employee. (read 'patient')
>
> No, I was thinking of the patient. For the patient who needs work, this
>program can be a godsend.
>
>>
>> Damn, son ! Isn't tryin' to make a livin' by sittin' on my arse.
>> Fix what I can, and keep in mind my patients time/money/pain/etc...
>> That's what they expect of me, and I deliver to the best of my
>> ability...everyday that I practice.
>> The 'practice' ain't about me, it's about the patients.
>
> Good.
>>>>
>>>> What ? A "FREE LOAN!" of my own earnings ?
>
> >>
>>
>> Well, dang it V, I get no advances, I do the work, and have to pay the
>> overhead. It may be 'free' to *you* as you see it, but the reality is
>> that someone pays your way.
>
> The reality is that I have a job. I work there and they compensate me with
>pay and benefits.
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps you don't understand my end. ?
>
> Although I know nothing about your particular practice, I think I have a
>pretty good grasp of the basics here.
>>
>>> Yes, but my situation is very typical.
>>
>> Sez you !
>
> Yes, sez me. Like I say, I am a pretty typical working guy. The main
>difference is that I have a bit more education than the average.
>
>> It's a line from "RoboCop"
>
> Oh. Don't get to the movies much.
>>
>>
>> BTW if you are taking 'prilosec' daily, have you considered changing
>> your diet ?
>
> Actually, I don't take the stuff at all. I know how much it costs because
>I buy it for my father. It is one of those great "cash flow" pills that you are
>supposed to take once a day, every day...forever. As for my father's diet, he
>has been around for 87 years and I don't think you will get him to change.
>
>> Just something weird: "Prilosec Addict".
>> Personally would have named it 'prilosex' but would that sell ?
>
> Probably sell like hotcakes.
>
Good one !

>>
>> Did you forget "as GM goes, so goes the country" ?
>> BTW that doesn't ring true now.
>> Did it ever ?
>
> Yep, once. Like it or not, we are less and less an industrial economy.

Corporate tax burdens and OSHA rules, and other govermental meddling
have made a significant impact on that.
>>
>>> There are still a few of us Americans out
>>>there who have jobs.
>>
>> You ain't one of them.
>
> First of all, you don't even know what I do.

You have never said before to the best of my recollection.

>Second, I don't insult your
>profession and I request the same courtesy from you.
>
Fair enough.

> My job occasionally puts a shovel in my hand, or puts me down in a manhole
>in the middle of US1. Following a hurricane last year, my job had me 200 feet
>up a communications tower realigning a damn big microwave dish to re-establish
>emergency communications and (incidentally) re-engineer the dish mount so it
>would not happen again (it didn't). They have kept me around for over 35 years,
>so I must be doing something right.
>
> If I were still in the Navy (another public job) I would be the old fart
>senior chief that knows how everything works and is as essential to the ship as
>the Captain. That is exactly the role I play for my employer; the people.
>
>> But if I am not mistaken you said that *you* work for the government.
>> The economy is not rosy, it is on dadburned fire !
>
> Yep, our economy is falling into a Burning Ring of Fire. (Damn, you caught
>me. I went a saw that JC movie. The first movie I have been to in probably
>five years.)
>

The economy is growing at a very good pace.
BTW how was the movie ? Last one I saw in a theater
was 'Titanic'.


>> Bureaucrats hate it when they are not needed.
>>
>> Why would anyone want to restrict anyone's ability to make a living ?
>>
>> "Those who cannot achieve their own goals,
>> seek to supress those who can."
>
> Are you having trouble achieving your personal goals?

No, not at all.
But I know others who do.

>
>Hope you had a good turkey day. We ended up in the emergency room with my
>father until 2 AM. (He will be OK yet again)
>
Yep it was nice to have some time off.
Sorry to hear that but glad he'll be OK.

>Vaughn
>

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