Re: Sue's campaign of misinformation


Whamatus_B wrote:
> Dear Regs,
> Please scroll down to examine a masterful dissection.
>
> Assuredly not boring, and maybe mildly entertaining.
> At least for 32 seconds or so...
>
> On 21 Dec 2005 15:23:22 -0800, "Sue" <chrlie699@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >Whamatus_B wrote:
> >> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:17:37 -0800, "Tim Dixon" <timgdixon-no-spam@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >What is to understand Sue when you make statements like this:
> >> >
> >> >"Theory Only: I would venture to guess that the onset of pain
> >> >associated with TMJ disorder is due to "parafunctional overuse" of the
> >> >muscles that control mandibular function as Boyd describes. (As I
> >> >understand, this includes bruxism and grinding due to poor
> >> >parasympathetic tone, thus affecting muscle relaxation... an essential
> >> >component in normal chewing function)."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> The Sympathetic and Parasympathetic nervous systems control
> >> involutary smooth musculature.
> >>
> >> Skeletal muscles are innervated by, you guessed it motor nerves.
> >>
> >> Sue's 'theory' not only nonsense, it's complete and utter bullsh*t.
> >> --
> >>
> >> Whamatus
>
> OK regs, I'm gonna bite.
> Pay attention and you just may learn something.
>
> >
> >Whamatus - Thank you!
>
> Don't thank me yet.
>
> >Now we are getting some discussion.
>
> No, not really; simply correcting your erroneous ass-umptions.
>
> > Yes. This is what I understood as well.
>
> Ass-umes facts not in evidence.
> There is *no* evidence that you even passingly understand
> the subject matter. Your education of human neuroanatomy
> is severely deficient.
>
> >I understood the masticatory muscles to be
> >controle dby motor nerves.
>
> All skeletal muscles are innervated by motor neurons.
> There are also sensory afferent neurons present in skeletal muscle.
>
> >That was why the discussion on DT was so
> >interesting.
>
> Some find watching grass grow, or paint dry *interesting*.
>
> Based on their ad-rag, I consider it a MMS publication.
> (That's mutual masturbation society for you folks in Rio Linda)
> In the common slang vernacular, a circle jerk.
> >
> >The dentists on Dentaltown brought up automonic function and its
> >potential role in the parafunction associated with TMJ disorders.
> >
Whamatus writes:

"There is no such thing as a 'chewing reflex'."

Reply. According to the late Dr. Arthur C. Guyton there is.
Unfortunately he was killed in a car accident April, 2003. He wrote
the textbook on human physiology. Known in the medical world as the
guru on human physiology.

"The only <'reflex'> that I'm aware of ..."

Reply. Check it out with other experts if you are unsure.

"BTW once the bolus is swallowed the Autonomic peristalsis takes over."

Reply. Yes. Thank you.

Q. What causes involuntary bruxing and grinding at night?

Amatus: No one yet knows the answer to that question. If anyone did,
we could treat the disorder.

Q. In your opinion, what role does the autonomic nervous system play in
this parafunction, if any?

Whamatus: Zero, zip, nada... etc.

The Autonomic Nervous System functions of the human mouth
are largely limited to salivary flow control, gag reflex, and
partially swallowing.
Some may include the 'sucking reflex' of a nursing baby.

Reply. If no one yet knows what causes involuntary bruxing and
grinding, then how does one arrive at the forgone conclusion that the
ANS has zero, zip, nada involvement in this? Others have speculated
otherwise.

-Sue

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