Re: File btoken during root canal

On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:00:39 -0600, Dartos <tuthjockey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:




you go to an expert service provider to get something done, that
provider makes a mistake (whether it's his "fault" or not) causing you
to have to spend more money to fix the problem that didn't exist until
he created it... then you have to pay more money to fix that
problem???!

No, in my opinion, the first dentist broke off the file, he should pay
to have it removed. Period. End of story.

Long post to follow, but I'm not offended at your statements. I just
don't happen to agree with them.

Let's say you have a 1955 Thunderbird that was driven until it had
120K miles, was restored once in 1980, has another 80K on it, and
needs another engine rebuilt. The 312 V-8 has some parts that are
not available at the local auto parts store and the mechanic doing the
second rebuild doesn't know exactly what the mechanic did on the first
rebuild.

Two head bolts break off just getting the engine apart. The carburator
jets need to be replaced, but they aren't available as new parts. It
takes three tries to properly modify available parts to fix them.

The cam is not stock. The cylinders are already .060 over and
you aren't sure you can squeeze another .030. Two exhaust manifold
bolts are missing.

On and on through the rebuild, and then torquing down the last
head bolt, POP, another one goes. Off comes the head and all of the
head bolts are re-examined, a few drilled and tapped before final
assembly.

Should the engine rebuild be the same cost as one for a 1995 Taurus?
Should the mechanic accept responsibility for parts that failed?
Should the mechanic charge extra for adapting available parts to
fit an obsolete engine?

Most mechanics would simply say, "I don't work on that kind of
project". Dentists do it every day.

Some dental treatment is easier than others. A small one-surface
restoration on a teenager is *usually* pretty straight forward,
but much of it is more like the above example.

Cutting out an old amalgam, remaking a crown, root canals,
and many other dental treatments can turn into big trouble quickly
without the dentist making any mistakes. Experience, skill, and
education help the dentist reduce the chances for poor results, but
they do not eliminate them.

Dentistry has been very good at 'fixing' teeth for many years. The
repairs usually last 10-50 years! When something cannot be restored,
fails after a short length of service, or takes more time, effort,
and money, the patient often is upset and shocked. "We" have worked
hard to deliver good treatment and make it comfortable and seem to
be "no big deal". It isn't nearly as easy as it may seem.

D
I do understand your position and I'm willing to say maybe you are
right and maybe I am wrong.

But my feeling is that if I bring my old engine in to you, and it's
got a bad cylinder so you agree to fix it for me.
But you break off a screwdriver inside the engine and now the broken
pieces of the screwdriver have to be found and taken out, in order for
the engine to run right, it's not my responsibility to pay for the
extra time spent doing so, because it was you who broke it off. Maybe
your screwdriver was old, maybe you torqued it too much, maybe it was
a defective screwdriver, etc., none of which are your fault, really.

I think, if the mechanic was going to be honest (I know: highly
unlikely, but let's just pretend), he should not charge me for the
extra time removing the broken screwdriver from inside the engine.
(In reality, the mechanic would just charge me for more time and never
tell me about the mistake he made.)

(I realize this is not a practical and accurate analogy, I'm not a
mechanic nor a dentist; but I think you get the gist of what I am
saying.)
.

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