Re: Should we remove a left kidney with a tumor if pulmonary lymph nodes are enlarged?

From: Steph (steph_at_vancouver.island)
Date: 11/18/04


Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:33:59 GMT


"Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Steph" <steph@vancouver.island> wrote in message
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>> "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>>> I don't think "cure" and :"in the clear" are daft, in the right
>>>>> context.
>>>>> You are to all intents and purposes
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>>> What on Earth does 'to all intents and purposes' mean? It's not
>>> definite.
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>>> To tell someone s/he is cured or clear is cruel. It's not guaranteed.
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>>> Mary
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>> It's often guaranteed, or as guaranteed as anything in life
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> I don't believe that you can have a guarantee that a cancer won't recur.

If I treat your larynx cancer, and it hasn't recurred in 4 years, I can
guarantee you that te chances of it ever recurring are about 1%. Is that not
good enough?
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> I wasn't comparing the situation with anything else in life.
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> My onc said that I had a 'good ten year prognosis'. That was honest. He
> did say that it didn't cover buses. Five years later his junior said that
> I was cured. I was indignant. Not for me but because if he's telling other
> women that and then they have another diagnosis of bc the next year or so
> they are going to be devastated.
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> Who can guarantee a non recurrence? Can you??
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As I said, breast cancer is different from other common cancers.

> Mary
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