Re: Need advice on clinical trials


PM wrote:
IIRC their work was entirely in the test tube, and under very
artificial conditions at that (heavy iron loading of the cells that is
probably impractical in vivo). I am also unaware of any evidence that
Artemisin has yet shown any clinical effectiveness, i.e. effects on
cancer in humans, although I understand it is under study in some
places. Do you have any better evidence to present?

Using such a product might also disqualify the enquirer from clinical
trials of other agents.

Since we know the foundation is using the compound, we know it
is safe for humans. There have been over 350 papers written on it by
many scientists and doctors.

Mostly, I am sure, because it is in wide use as an antimalarial.

Since it can't be patented, the big drug
companies have no interest in it, as it won't make them money.

This has not prevented wide usage by doctors as a second-line
antimalarial. And, as said, I believe, studies of its use in cancer
are under way.

Peter Moran
www.cancerwatcher.com

Peter,
Anything you or I print here could easily be a complete load of
baloney, including 'facts' and 'evidence' of all sorts. I would rather
have people look up the information on their own and decide. My
intention here is not to get into some kind of argument with you about
Artemisinin but to present another possible treatment for a disease
that so far has mainly enriched those that cluster around it selling
products and making careers, and caused much pain and death where it
may not be necessary. By researching Artemisinin a little further than
you seem to have, you may find that there have indeed been in vivo
studies and much anecdotal evidence reported by doctors, especially in
the orient (China and India) that offer hope for a number of people.

I believe many people that come here to these forums are not
looking for scientific argument, but for possible treatments for
themselves or loved ones. While I cannot guarantee Artemisinin as a
treatment, I have heard many good things about it, and I can offer it
to those that might gain something from it. If it is ineffective, many
will certainly come here and loudly proclaim it a useless compound to
be avoided.

People aren't fools. They can decide their own situation based on
their own research and whether they have the time and the belief in a
treatment to go ahead and try it. It's nice to be a 'protector' of
folks from quack cures, but don't throw out the baby with the bath
water because you have a little knowledge on a subject. Research this
one a little more deeply.

Chris

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