Re: Christians and Santa Claus

From: Agua Girl (uknown_at_spamblock.net)
Date: 12/19/04 

Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:53:53 -0800

"Iceman" <1c3m4n@chi-mafia.org> wrote in message
news:f7xjece0eq5r$.dlg@icepick.org...
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:01:30 -0800, Agua Girl wrote:
>
> > "Iceman" <1c3m4n@chi-mafia.org> wrote in message
> > news:1bguwk2xqbexd.dlg@icepick.org...
> >> On 19 Dec 2004 06:28:45 -0800, Kim wrote:
> >>
> >> While that all sounds good, consider the Moslems, VooDoo, Satanism,
native
> >> religions of Africa, etc. to pick out just a few of the extremes that
> > would
> >> counter his good wishes.
> >
> > You should have stopped at "all that sounds good"...because it
> > is. Most people base their attitude about any given religion
> > by the people they know that claim it. You have to do what
> > Kim did..research the original belief system, read the writings
> > for yourself. Muslim teachings don't tell them to strap a bomb
> > to their chest and walk into a school...fanatical leaders tell
> > them that and claim it is what Allah wants. Lots of people
> > will tell you that the Bible says and eye for an eye and claim
> > it means that God says you can extract vengeance...but if you
> > read it for yourself in it's entirety you know that it teaches
> > what you do will be visited upon you, not that you can
> > do back what others do to you.
> > How much do you know about VooDoo? Satanism?
> > Native African religions? How much have you read on
> > your own? When you hear the word "Pagan" do you assume
> > witches in black hats sacrificing goats?
> >
> > That's the crux of what Kim was saying, what the Dali
> > Lama was saying and what I was trying to say. There is
> > more commonality in all the spiritual teachings then there
> > are differences. It's only the extremes that man takes those
> > teachings to that differ. Religions do not teach intolerance,
> > religious leaders do.
> >
> > AG
>
> LOL, Check out the historical facts, not current day spins. You have also
> convoluted so many things here that it is impossible to address them one
by
> one. Suffice it to say regarding one point Islam does not teach tolerance.

What books on the teachings of Islam did you read? I would like to
know specifically where you learned what Islam teaches.

> What you seem to forget is that there are many gods, but only one God.

One God that goes by many names. You are blinded by the fact that
the teachings fall under different headings and the names they give
him are not the same. You have to do the research.

> There is God, Satan, and mankind in between. If you are aware of Satan and
> his ways then your understanding of religions and mans seemingly good
> intentions falls apart. There is a spiritual warfare going on and has gone
> on since the beginning of man. There is a life everlasting and death
> everlasting, that is the bottom line to all of this. It is up to man to
> chose which he will follow. Mankind lives only a very short time and in
> comparison to eternity it is non-existent. Look at the greater perspective
> and seek the Truth accordingly. :)

Well, first off...I am Pagan and I don't believe in Satan....but I do
believe in Santa if that helps :-).
Frankly I doubt we believe in the same God. In my mind
spirituality and warfare can't go together and it's not spirituality
that makes man fight with man...it's mans inability to accept
that his way is not the only way and not even necessarily the
best way for anyone but himself.
Like I said...you need to do the research...or not. You can
just embrace your beliefs and know that it's right...for you.
Just don't expect me to take you seriously when you try and
tell me what all the other belief systems are about.

AG

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