Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ROSEMARY JACOBS

From: hickwithverylitlelyme (hickwithverylitlelyme_at_somewhere.net)
Date: 06/12/04 

Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 08:48:33 -0400

> This is really disgusting. A personal attack on this woman based on
> nothing other than the fact that she dares to criticize god forbid
> colloidal silver.

she criticizes the use of something she has never used,,,,big
difference.......
>
> HWL you should be ashamed to post this crap.

no i should get a big,,,HELL YA!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> No evidence to support the accusations against her.
> And absurd references to her and the pharmeceutical industry "avoiding
> legal liability" by "cleverly referring to CSP instead of CS."
YOU ANSWERED YOU OWN QUESTION THERE......

>
> LOL Legal liability against whom? You can't slander a product owned by
> no one specifically. One that people here are claiming that no one has
> a financial interst in anyway since you can brew it yourself for less
> than a dollar for huge amounts. And build your own generator whether
> or not you can even read and write the english language or learn to
> use lower case type in messages like everyone else on the entire
> usenet since all caps is really annoying and considered SHOUTING and
> is specially hard for other Lyme patients to deal with.
AS I SAID,,,,IT COSTS LITTLE TO MAKE,,,IT IS EFFECTIVE,,,,WE CAN TAYLOR ARE
OWN TREATMENT,,,
AND ARE GOVERNMENT WOULD GO BROKE BECAUSE IT CURES SO MANY DIFFERENT
THINGS,,,,
DOCTORS OFFICES WOULD ONLY HAVE 50% OF THE PATIENTS,,,,,,,YOU KNOW WHAT KIND
OF CRISIS THAT WOULD BE,,,,,,,
TAKE 2 ASPRIN,,,AND CALL ME IN THE MORNING steere,,WOULD BE BROKE,,,,,,,
TO THINK HE COULD TREAT ALL THOSE KIDS WITH ASPRIN,,,,,,,,HE USED
THEM,,,,,,THERE PROBABLY CRIPPLES NOW,,,,,

>
> > We address the Rosemary Jacobs disinfo story in the introductory notes
to
> > our book Silver, The Forgotten Antibiotic which came out in 1998. We
even
> > have a few articles put out by CNN in our Silver book II about her when
she
> > first appeared on the scene around 1997 I think.
>
> All this "I think" and lack of detail when the writer of this is about
> to make serious accusations based on nothing against this poor woman.
>
> > Anyway, she's a shill for the pharmaceuticals and the AMA Quackbuster
gang.
>
> And this reckless accusation is based on what? Where's the evidence?
>
> This is like the Bush people. One day you can be a valued and trusted
> member of their team. Resign, give an interview, write a book and dare
> to criticize and suddenly you always were some kind of nut, traitor,
> communist, incompetent. Gee if that is true, why did bush hire them or
> keep them on? If it isn't true then the attacks are bullying
> McCarthyite vicious and disgusting attacks. *** Clarke, Paul O'Neil,
> Ambassador Joe Wilson, and the guy who ran the White House office of
> faith based initiatives. It happened to all of them.
>
> The true incompetents refuse to be held accountable. Bush, Cheney,
> Scooter Libby, Karl ROve, Condaleeza Rice, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith,
> Armitage, Perle, Gambone, Boucher, Ashcroft, Ridge, Mueller. Where
> does the buck stop with these guys? At the CLinton Administration.
>
sorry about the caps,,,but i do agree on your political views,,,,only im
more harsh,,,,
>
> > She was a poor woman from either West Viginia or Kentucky, can't
remember
> > for sure off the top of my head. Now, she's a full time debunker against
> > colloidal silver with a big web site.
>
> Big web site? Anyone can have a website these days. Requires little
> knowledge or sophistication. Certainly doesn't require big pharma
> backing you up. So she was a poor woman. What evidence that she isn't
> now? Her very limited website which has limited content and is not
> frequently updated probably costs nearly nothing to keep up. Lots of
> "poor people" have computers and websites. What crap.

she was on tv,,,,2 days ago......

s i said,,,and you dont catch on,,,,and call me stupid,,,,,we dont know what
she was a snortin,,,,she doesnt either,,,she states to have it tested first
on her own webpage,,,,,,,it could have been drano,,,,the doctor was trying
to open he up after all,,,,,,,
she and the others who took silver salts,,,or compounds are not good sources
at all............

> >In the late 90's, the pharmaceuticlas
> > were hauling her around to different doctor's conventions so she can
tell
> > her ghastly tale of the curse of colloidal silver. Do you think she did
that
> > without compensation?
>
> I don't know. Do you? Any evidence to back any of this up?

that sure doesnt mean it didnt happen,,,,being the large amount ofthe
population takeing silver,,,,,,,the pharma... companies are paying pennies
to her in hopes to make trillions....

>
> >They , of course, got a big media campaign going
> > behind her, so she her photo showed up in everything from JAMA to major
> > magazines and newspapers.
>
> Her story appeared in very limited media (do a google search).

it was on national tv 2 or 3 mornings ago.....she admitted,,,,she had no
clue here doctor ordered it.....
>
> > The only problem is that she's being misleading and deceptive about her
> > claim, while avoiding any legal liability.
>
> Legal liability to who? Supposedly everyone makes this stuff
> themselves for next to nothing and the "recipe" is posted along with
> how to make your own generator all for nearly nothing.
>
> No one has a commercial interest. There is no person whose name she
> slanders. Legal liability for what and to who?

for the people who are pushing generic antibiotics that are not full
strength,,,that will not cure lyme,,,,,and 90% of insurance companies push
the generic.......

what are they leaveing out,,,,,the fancy wrapper,,,,i believe the pill
bottles are made the same,,,,,its the cheap junk,,,,you sometimes get
inside...that matters....
>
> By the way for a product that no one has a commercial interest in,
> there sure a lot of people hawking it and selling it for a lot more
> than next to nothing. Maybe not HWL though who knows why the
> aggressive spamming (I'm still wondering if CS folks need to collect
> the souls of recruits to sacrifice to some CS demon like in a buffy or
> x files episode? The people want to know?) I see lots of ads for CS on
> the google links to the right of the Sci med lyme home page. Do a
> search and lots of people pay to advertise cs. So what gives?

there makeing far less,,,,,than drug companies,,,,and once you get a
generator,,,,,you dont have problems like the 14 year old girl,,,,,,,,,

the insurance stopped because the deemed the treatment
unnecessary...........they should have to move there business to
Iraq......for stopping it...they are makeing millions every day
>
> >She and the people behind her
>
> OH the "people behind her." The unidentified mysterious big $$$
> interests. Part of the whole black helicopter ZOG one world government
> gang I guess. the big THEY behind all the conspiracies.
>
> > want you to believe that the colloidal silver sold in health food
stores,
> > etc. caused her skin problem. That's not the case at all. She got her
> > condition by taking nose drops of a PROTEIN compund (probably silver
> > nitrate) that contained silver. It is correctly labeled Colloidal Silver
> > Protein or CSP. It's very important to remember that little detail.
>
> And you know this how? And of course there is some bull***
> "explanation" like she didn't use the RIGHT CS. She shoulda brewed it
> in her bathtub I guess? LOL Like that is safe conditions to brew
> things up in your bathtub but a commercial product isn';t safe? Just
> like the problem with Rife Machines is that some people are using the
> wrong type. Electromagnetic waves aren't em waves. If it is a royal
> rife instead of a "doug machine" or maybe the zapper is the good one
> that cures all diseases? Each one has their devotees and each one says
> the other is bad. Guess what? I say I don't trust any of this facile
> bull*** or these ridiculous explanations.
>

do your own tests,,,,my silver for 3 weeks now,,,has been on the kitchen
counter,,,in a clear glass,,,it is still suspended,,,i bought a bottle from
GNC,,,it
is in the exact same type glass,,,after day 9,,the other silver clumped to
the top.......improper made,,,or sat somewhere way to long....

> It is like religions. Supposedly it matters to god that you choose the
> right one. No way to know which is right. Do I face east when I pray?
> Or West? Make a mistake and you'll go to hell instead of heaven. God
> isn't God. He or she or it is a Christain God, or a Buddhist one or a
> Muslim one or a Jewish one or whatever. Prayer isn't prayer, it has to
> be said in the right temple or church or synagogue.

believe what you want,,,,,in my book there is only one god,,,i dont worship
any other,,,,,,
he comes first,,,,,,,then the silver,,,,,,,,lol......
>

> > The CSP was prescribed to her by her licenced, orthodox medical doctor
and
> > she had to have a prescription to buy it from the drug store, since it
was
> > made by a pharmaceutical company.
>
> Yeah a pharmeceutical company who manufactured it in hygenic
> conditions god forbid instead of made it at home in the bathtub. The
> danger was trusting a commercial product. The pharmeceutical company
> deliberately chose to make the dangerous form instead of the cheap
> safe one because they were plotting to put their customers at risk.
> Some business strategy.

good point,,,,many others took the same *** and didnt turn
blue,,,,,,,,explain that............in the 50s,,,same as her.......

>
> Is anyone buying into this nonsense?
>
> > She took it for 35 years if my memory
> > serves me.
>
> Yeah go ahead and make all these scurrilous charges based on vague
> recollections and assumptions. That is fair. And very persuasive. Very
> convincing.
she said it,,,jump her as maybe it would have helped the pharma.. companies
alot more if it happened the first day......

> >Since skin is made up of protein, it's possible for a protein
> > compound containing silver to bond with her skin protein and leave
deposits
> > of silver. However, even for the very small percentage of people who use
> > CSP, only a very small percentage actually get Argyria. The condition is
> > EXTREMELY RARE.
>
> Yeah I've been reading. There were zero cases. Oh no, actually there
> was one. Oh no, there were seven. Oh no there were actually dozens and
> dozens but no one really tracks the data so who the f knows.

how many blue people have you seen on the street in your life,,,,or a matter
of fact anyone on here,,,,,and thousands take CS,,,on a daily bases........

> > The vast majority of people today are using colloidal silver and NOT
> > colloidal silver protein or CSP. Colloidal silver simply contains
> > submicroscopic particles of silver and distilled water and nothing else.
It
> > has NEVER been demonstrated that ordinary CS (colloidal silver) causes
or
> > can cause Argyria; only CSP can do that. But does Rosemary and the
> > pharmaceutical hacks writing about her explain that to the reader?
>
as staed and proven there has not been 1 case involving proper mad colloidal
silver....plain and simple...........it is far safer than an automobile ride
a mile down the road from your house,,,,,,proven........
>
> > They avoid the legal liability by repeatedly refering to Rosemary as
having
> > used CSP, without ever defining for the reader what "CSP" stands for.
Cute
> > huh?
>
i do know that she is wrong,,,,,and she is keeping alot of people from being
treated with something that works,,,,,,,

i wonder if she really sat down,,and realiezed,,,she may be crippling,,,or
even killing people,,,with her nonsense,,,that is fact.......

> > This single woman, with drug company money behind her, has likely caused
> > MILLIONS of people to back away from ever trying CS because most people
> > can't think on their own feet and look to authority figures for advice.
>
> The evidence for any of these statements is where? Gimme a link.

every silver site,,,,,they have to post it is only a dietary suplement
ALLL,,,,because of ROSIE,,,,Rosie is blue so everyone else has to
suffer...........
>
> >A single scare story like Rosemary's will win out 99% of the time
> over
> > hundreds of positive testimonials lauding the benefits of CS.
>
> Why? There are lots of folks so desperate as to ignore the known risks
> of many things based on "positive testimonials" without bothering to
> check the details of any of them. For all we know the "positive
> testimonials" are all positively fraudulent. Or not. Maybe they;re
> from unreliable gullible fools. Maybe they are cs cult members who are
> recruting souls to ritually sacrifice to the cs demons?

people get killed in cars every day,,,,,,BUT YET,,,,,,,,,they hop right in
them............

you sure you was on the debate team,,,,I know i wasn't in many spelling
BEE"SSSS,,,,,,,,,,,rotflmao,,,,,,i deserve it..........

>

> >These people
> > always resort to instilling FEAR as their number one method of debunking
any
> > type of alternative medicine.
>
> Or daring to ask for evidence to support safety and effectiveness of
> products making extraordinary claims instead of unverifiable
> testimonials. Or daring to ask for evidence to support these
> slanderous accusations.
>
> Gee what gall.
>
> > Know thine enemy and Know the truth, for the Truth shall set you free.
>
> Talk about demagoguery. This woman is now THE ENEMY.
>
> Are you sure the Cs folks don't do spin for the bush administration?
> The tactics seem so familiar.

dam,,,,,he figured out our cars were running on it,,,and we are saveing 1.20
a gallon,,,,now we are in trouble......Bush told us not to tell.
sorry it doesnt take paint of paint brushes like the stuff of years ago,,,we
dont use lead........just distilled water,,and pure silver......

your friend as usual,,,,,,,,,the prick,,,,,,lol

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