Re: 1 (800) [blah blah blah]

From: A_Weisman (a_weisman_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 06/16/04 

Date: 16 Jun 2004 16:24:17 -0700

"Nancy Berntsen" <email_address@end-of-post.com> wrote in message news:<jmKzc.25672$Yt2.6034@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...
> I would have expected a "heads up" such as that to be directed to me
> privately, not publicly. (This is how I communicated with Kathleen, trying
> to persuade her not to post so much about her family, etc.)

Well that's how YOU would have done it. Not how I chose to do it.

>You and others
> never understood my relationship with her. I doubt you ever will be able to.

I doubt that I care.

> Having compassion for someone does not mean you believe everything they
> stand for. I doubt I read as much as 10% of her posts. I did not approve of
> her methods, but I respected her right to find out whatever she could and to
> do what she could to make a difference in the Lyme world within legal and
> ethical limits.

LOL Well she wasn't finding anything out. She was delusional.
Hallucinatory. Psychotic.

And she lied. And committed numerous crimes. She didn't act within any
legal or ethical limits.

> I do appreciate that you have denounced your original post though; three
> times is enough now. I guess that's the best one could expect now that it's
> been done.

I wasn't denouncing my original post. I was denouncing the jwismille
post calling for reports. I stand behind my original post except to
the extent that it was inaccurate. You say that your children are
adults. I have no reason not to believe that.

So I stand corrected on that point and any inaccurate ones.

For anyone who has minor children and gives them silver I stand behind
the original post. I don't think you should give it to them. If you
do, don't be so stupid as to post about it.

> I do not feel like a victim though.

You frequently play the victim nancy.

You seem to relish the role.

And put lots of other condiments on it too :-)

>A target would be a better word for it.

See, playing the victim.

> It's true; once Lisa and Kathleen bowed out, some of you had to find new
> targets.

Wrong. I stopped posting as I promised. Then it became necessary to
come back and deal with the silver freaks. We're just trying to get
the newsgroup back for Lyme patients.

>All I try to do here is give people hope, and this somehow gets
> twisted into me going off my rocker about RICO or whatever else.

Huh? Where did anyone say that YOU were on board with the RICO
nonsense?

>I don't
> even understand what RICO is all about.

Neither did kathloon. Or lisa. Or the idiots who supported and enabled
her in her delusions.

>I thought it had to do with
> racketeering and picketing without a permit or something.

It has to do with racketeering.

Picketing without a permit?

They tried to use the RICO statute to get some of the anti choice
people like randall terry and other nazi fascisct holy roller self
righteous hypocrite murderers with the RICO statute. I don't remember
if the courts upheld it against the organizations or individuals
involved.

>Someday when I'm
> not busy making butterflies, I'll check into that. If I live long enough.
> There are so many things I want to do yet.

Whatever. Stop wasting your time here then. Life's too freaking short.

> Also, FYI, I come and go as I please through this open doorway.

I'm talking about how you SAID one thing and did another. Sure, you
can do what you want.

>My purpose
> is stated at my website. It's no secret. It's all about hope. You have a
> problem with people that believe in God and the power of prayer.

Nope. I have a problem with people who push their religion and beliefs
on others.

I have a problem with the judgmental and self righteous manner.

Look above. You condemn me because I proceeded in a way different than
you would have. Or did.

Well that's you. I'm me. Not you. THANK GOD.

See I'm religious too LOL

> Well,
> that's your loss. I wouldn't have found out about colloidal silver if it
> weren't for prayer. I give credit where credit is due.

LOL So GOD turned you on to cs? Are you sure it wasn't SATAN? LOL

> Also, "Equilibrium" is a movie with a theme sort of in parallel to the
> novel, "Fahrenheit 451." Emotions and beauty are outlawed (except for the
> secret "father" of the political movement.) The community/world is
> micro-managed down to making sure people take their anti-emotion meds every
> day.

Thanks for the synopsis. Sounds like many of you would prefer this
board to be like that. Sounds like Lymenut.

> I prefer living in the free world, free to take a few risks here and there.

Good for you. You're a real free spirit. A total party girl.

> I'm not going to get into all your other questions. You don't really want me
> to anyway. Just remember, I said "ungrounded" and not "underground." There's
> a big difference.
>
> Nancy

Yeah. Sure is.

Thanks for making that crucial point.
>
>
>
> --
> Email: berntsen AT oikourgos.com
> "A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:e55e6d97.0406151336.b25737@posting.google.com...
> > derdrittemann2003@yahoo.com (derdrittemann) wrote in message
> news:<f2af2263.0406150513.3578ff5@posting.google.com>...
> > > "Nancy Berntsen" <email_address@end-of-post.com> wrote in message
> news:<sXrzc.333$2J7.108@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>...
> > >
> > >
> > > > "Folks, not to worry. For the record, the "children" "jwismille" with
> one s
> > > > and a_weisman are "concerned about" are both senior citizens and are
> totally
> > > > competent in taking care of themselves". >
> > >
> > > And thank you, Nancy, for noticing that I am "clean" on this...and not
> > > associated with it...
> >
> > Well der and nancy, for the record, I repudiate the posting
> > encouraging reports.
> >
> > My post was not meant to encourage such reports. As I said.
> >
> > And I meant it.
> >
> > Believe it or not I was trying to give nancy some advice. Not to post
> > about things that could come back to haunt her.
> >
> > I take her at her word that she has no minor children involved.
> >
> > I have no way of knowing otherwise. I don't know her other than
> > through her messages. I take issue only with what she has written, now
> > who she is. I don't know her so I can't take issue with her. Only the
> > ideas she posts. Or her self righteous holier than thou tone. Or her
> > support and enabling of people like kathloon. And her judgmental
> > attitude towards others.
> >
> > Der I'd be careful to give her ammunition for her victim role.
> >
> > Yes, dissasocitiate yourself from the 1 800 posting. And my posting if
> > you want. I am dissociating myself from the 1 800 posting.
> >
> > I'm not chuck. I'm not jwismille.
> >
> > > ...frankly, I would be extremely embarrassed to be associated with
> > > this. I am sorry for you here.
> >
> > I'd be embarrassed to be associated with this too. I honestly
> > sincerely did not mean for my post to lead to this. I said that I
> > wasn't encouraging anyone to report.
> >
> > And I admitted that I didn't read nancy's tome in detail. I never read
> > her things in detail. She goes on and on. Repeats herself. Goes off on
> > tangents. None of what she says is particularly interesting to me.
> >
> > I got a sense of what she wrote. I skimmed it. I didn't pay attention
> > to the details.
> >
> > She says her kids are adults. Fine.
> >
> > If they were minors I'd dissaprove. But I wouldn't report her. Or
> > encourage others to do so. Not because I disagree with her.
> >
> > I've only encouraged reports to the authorities when people have
> > threatened or harassed me.
> >
> > My post was meant to be a heads up to her.
> >
> > I don't know why she posts under her own name. It isn't smart to do
> > so. Frankly, it isn't safe or prudent.
> >
> > As much as she accuses us (but not her friends) of posting under
> > aliases, no sane person posts on the internet using their own name.
> >
> > Even hick is smart enough not to identify himself. Not smart enough
> > that he didn't post reverse directions to his home in bellefonte pa.
> > But he is smart enough to lie about it. And not post his real name in
> > the first place.
> >
> > > It's getting REAL crazy around here now.
> >
> > LOL It's been REAL crazy around here for a long long time.
> >
> > That's why you'd have to be nuts to post your real name.
> >
> > I know at least one person who did but no one noticed. Or almost no
> > one. Now that is a question that deserves an answer. LOL Know who I
> > mean der? LOL