Re: 1 (800) [blah blah blah]

From: A_Weisman (a_weisman_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 06/17/04 

Date: 17 Jun 2004 00:54:28 -0700

"Nancy Berntsen" <email_address@end-of-post.com> wrote in message news:<rH7Ac.2067$Pt.54@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>...
> You still don't get it. Although my children were kids when I was first
> diagnosed with Lyme disease and when I first took CS, I ever mentioned them
> in these posts.

So what don't I get? I believe that your kids were adults. I told you
I didn't read your post I skimmed it. I find it impossible to read
your endless tomes in detail. And not worth the time. Life is too
short and spending the time reading your blathering is time I won't
get back.

I may have been off in skimming your post. I acknowledge the
inaccuracies I may have written based on skimming. You say your kids
are adults. I have no reason not to believe that.

And I've said that a couple of times.

Not sure what I don't get?

> That's what got you in trouble in the first place

Got me "in trouble" ? With who? For what? I'm not in trouble.

>and what
> led to jwismille's inappropriate post. One more time: the family that used
> CS was my PARENTS and me, and for the reasons I posted earlier. (And it
> really helped them just like it helped me!)

Good for all of you. Bad for jwismille.

> I'm tempted to say a lot more, but I'll refrain except for this good advice
> for everyone: Don't just take somebody's word on something, but...

I take your word when you say you didn't give cs to any minor
children.

I don't need you to prove it.

> "Prove all things, hold fast that which is good." KJV

I don't take your word or hicks or sinaj or anyone's when it comes to
cs claims and you haven;t proved anything there.,

>
> --
> Email: berntsen AT oikourgos.com
> "A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:e55e6d97.0406161524.208dada6@posting.google.com...
> > "Nancy Berntsen" <email_address@end-of-post.com> wrote in message
> news:<jmKzc.25672$Yt2.6034@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...
> > > I would have expected a "heads up" such as that to be directed to me
> > > privately, not publicly. (This is how I communicated with Kathleen,
> trying
> > > to persuade her not to post so much about her family, etc.)
> >
> > Well that's how YOU would have done it. Not how I chose to do it.
> >
> > >You and others
> > > never understood my relationship with her. I doubt you ever will be able
> to.
> >
> > I doubt that I care.
> >
> > > Having compassion for someone does not mean you believe everything they
> > > stand for. I doubt I read as much as 10% of her posts. I did not approve
> of
> > > her methods, but I respected her right to find out whatever she could
> and to
> > > do what she could to make a difference in the Lyme world within legal
> and
> > > ethical limits.
> >
> > LOL Well she wasn't finding anything out. She was delusional.
> > Hallucinatory. Psychotic.
> >
> > And she lied. And committed numerous crimes. She didn't act within any
> > legal or ethical limits.
> >
> > > I do appreciate that you have denounced your original post though; three
> > > times is enough now. I guess that's the best one could expect now that
> it's
> > > been done.
> >
> > I wasn't denouncing my original post. I was denouncing the jwismille
> > post calling for reports. I stand behind my original post except to
> > the extent that it was inaccurate. You say that your children are
> > adults. I have no reason not to believe that.
> >
> > So I stand corrected on that point and any inaccurate ones.
> >
> > For anyone who has minor children and gives them silver I stand behind
> > the original post. I don't think you should give it to them. If you
> > do, don't be so stupid as to post about it.
> >
> > > I do not feel like a victim though.
> >
> > You frequently play the victim nancy.
> >
> > You seem to relish the role.
> >
> > And put lots of other condiments on it too :-)
> >
> > >A target would be a better word for it.
> >
> > See, playing the victim.
> >
> > > It's true; once Lisa and Kathleen bowed out, some of you had to find new
> > > targets.
> >
> > Wrong. I stopped posting as I promised. Then it became necessary to
> > come back and deal with the silver freaks. We're just trying to get
> > the newsgroup back for Lyme patients.
> >
> > >All I try to do here is give people hope, and this somehow gets
> > > twisted into me going off my rocker about RICO or whatever else.
> >
> > Huh? Where did anyone say that YOU were on board with the RICO
> > nonsense?
> >
> > >I don't
> > > even understand what RICO is all about.
> >
> > Neither did kathloon. Or lisa. Or the idiots who supported and enabled
> > her in her delusions.
> >
> > >I thought it had to do with
> > > racketeering and picketing without a permit or something.
> >
> > It has to do with racketeering.
> >
> > Picketing without a permit?
> >
> > They tried to use the RICO statute to get some of the anti choice
> > people like randall terry and other nazi fascisct holy roller self
> > righteous hypocrite murderers with the RICO statute. I don't remember
> > if the courts upheld it against the organizations or individuals
> > involved.
> >
> > >Someday when I'm
> > > not busy making butterflies, I'll check into that. If I live long
> enough.
> > > There are so many things I want to do yet.
> >
> > Whatever. Stop wasting your time here then. Life's too freaking short.
> >
> > > Also, FYI, I come and go as I please through this open doorway.
> >
> > I'm talking about how you SAID one thing and did another. Sure, you
> > can do what you want.
> >
> > >My purpose
> > > is stated at my website. It's no secret. It's all about hope. You have a
> > > problem with people that believe in God and the power of prayer.
> >
> > Nope. I have a problem with people who push their religion and beliefs
> > on others.
> >
> > I have a problem with the judgmental and self righteous manner.
> >
> > Look above. You condemn me because I proceeded in a way different than
> > you would have. Or did.
> >
> > Well that's you. I'm me. Not you. THANK GOD.
> >
> > See I'm religious too LOL
> >
> > > Well,
> > > that's your loss. I wouldn't have found out about colloidal silver if
> it
> > > weren't for prayer. I give credit where credit is due.
> >
> > LOL So GOD turned you on to cs? Are you sure it wasn't SATAN? LOL
> >
> > > Also, "Equilibrium" is a movie with a theme sort of in parallel to the
> > > novel, "Fahrenheit 451." Emotions and beauty are outlawed (except for
> the
> > > secret "father" of the political movement.) The community/world is
> > > micro-managed down to making sure people take their anti-emotion meds
> every
> > > day.
> >
> > Thanks for the synopsis. Sounds like many of you would prefer this
> > board to be like that. Sounds like Lymenut.
> >
> > > I prefer living in the free world, free to take a few risks here and
> there.
> >
> > Good for you. You're a real free spirit. A total party girl.
> >
> > > I'm not going to get into all your other questions. You don't really
> want me
> > > to anyway. Just remember, I said "ungrounded" and not "underground."
> There's
> > > a big difference.
> > >
> > > Nancy
> >
> > Yeah. Sure is.
> >
> > Thanks for making that crucial point.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Email: berntsen AT oikourgos.com
> > > "A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:e55e6d97.0406151336.b25737@posting.google.com...
> > > > derdrittemann2003@yahoo.com (derdrittemann) wrote in message
> news:<f2af2263.0406150513.3578ff5@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > "Nancy Berntsen" <email_address@end-of-post.com> wrote in message
> news:<sXrzc.333$2J7.108@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Folks, not to worry. For the record, the "children" "jwismille"
> with
> one s
> > > > > > and a_weisman are "concerned about" are both senior citizens and
> are
> totally
> > > > > > competent in taking care of themselves". >
> > > > >
> > > > > And thank you, Nancy, for noticing that I am "clean" on this...and
> not
> > > > > associated with it...
> > > >
> > > > Well der and nancy, for the record, I repudiate the posting
> > > > encouraging reports.
> > > >
> > > > My post was not meant to encourage such reports. As I said.
> > > >
> > > > And I meant it.
> > > >
> > > > Believe it or not I was trying to give nancy some advice. Not to post
> > > > about things that could come back to haunt her.
> > > >
> > > > I take her at her word that she has no minor children involved.
> > > >
> > > > I have no way of knowing otherwise. I don't know her other than
> > > > through her messages. I take issue only with what she has written, now
> > > > who she is. I don't know her so I can't take issue with her. Only the
> > > > ideas she posts. Or her self righteous holier than thou tone. Or her
> > > > support and enabling of people like kathloon. And her judgmental
> > > > attitude towards others.
> > > >
> > > > Der I'd be careful to give her ammunition for her victim role.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, dissasocitiate yourself from the 1 800 posting. And my posting if
> > > > you want. I am dissociating myself from the 1 800 posting.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not chuck. I'm not jwismille.
> > > >
> > > > > ...frankly, I would be extremely embarrassed to be associated with
> > > > > this. I am sorry for you here.
> > > >
> > > > I'd be embarrassed to be associated with this too. I honestly
> > > > sincerely did not mean for my post to lead to this. I said that I
> > > > wasn't encouraging anyone to report.
> > > >
> > > > And I admitted that I didn't read nancy's tome in detail. I never read
> > > > her things in detail. She goes on and on. Repeats herself. Goes off on
> > > > tangents. None of what she says is particularly interesting to me.
> > > >
> > > > I got a sense of what she wrote. I skimmed it. I didn't pay attention
> > > > to the details.
> > > >
> > > > She says her kids are adults. Fine.
> > > >
> > > > If they were minors I'd dissaprove. But I wouldn't report her. Or
> > > > encourage others to do so. Not because I disagree with her.
> > > >
> > > > I've only encouraged reports to the authorities when people have
> > > > threatened or harassed me.
> > > >
> > > > My post was meant to be a heads up to her.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know why she posts under her own name. It isn't smart to do
> > > > so. Frankly, it isn't safe or prudent.
> > > >
> > > > As much as she accuses us (but not her friends) of posting under
> > > > aliases, no sane person posts on the internet using their own name.
> > > >
> > > > Even hick is smart enough not to identify himself. Not smart enough
> > > > that he didn't post reverse directions to his home in bellefonte pa.
> > > > But he is smart enough to lie about it. And not post his real name in
> > > > the first place.
> > > >
> > > > > It's getting REAL crazy around here now.
> > > >
> > > > LOL It's been REAL crazy around here for a long long time.
> > > >
> > > > That's why you'd have to be nuts to post your real name.
> > > >
> > > > I know at least one person who did but no one noticed. Or almost no
> > > > one. Now that is a question that deserves an answer. LOL Know who I
> > > > mean der? LOL