Re: alcohol with doxycycline

From: derdrittemann (derdrittemann2003_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 09/21/04 

Date: 20 Sep 2004 21:18:11 -0700

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<E%H3d.10568$g%5.130518@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> "derdrittemann" <derdrittemann2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > ...then ALL you are doing with your LARGE doses of Doxycycline may be
> > to cause the Bb to go into "hiding"...convert into a protective
> > form...only to re-emerge as soon as you stop bombarding them with
> > doxy?
>
> "The only thing I know is that there is an exponentional graph (with me
> taking doxy) of my sx. lessening. Every year, the time doubles that I can
> endure not taking doxy. Which means that in just 4 more years of doxy, I can
> stop taking it for an entire year. In my book, that means that doxy will
> "cure" me and I am already halfway".

Possibly...that's one interpretation, I suppose. I am NOT arguing
here, Frank, but merely asking you a question...have you considered
other possibilities?
>
> "You trying to persuade me to commit suicide by discontinuing the doxy is
> therefore doomed to failure".

Yes, well, of course, I said no such thing.
>
> "Furthermore, you silly person, there are no "oral" alternatives to
> doxycycline or minocycline accessible to me. Amoxi clearly does not work,
> neither does Clarithromycin, Azithromycin, Roxithromycin, Trimethoprim,
> Metronidazole or Tinidazole".

I suppose you have to find what works best for you. I do NOT think,
however, that what works for you necessarily works for others...or
that you should think so either...or start prescribing to others to do
what you have done.
>
>
> > In effect, becoming a doxy-"junkie"...without making any real progress
>
> "Where did you get the illusion I am not making any progress"?

Oh...when you were dying...I sort of thought that "death" which you
seemed to indicate was imminent...might indicate a lack of progress.
>
>
> > AND...incurring the risk of candisas from overuse of antibiotics?
>
> "I advise you to pay attention.
> I already have SYSTEMIC candidiasis (lungs, liver, eyes, mouth etc.) so it
> is absolutely not a factor any more. Moreover I am on a massive regimen of
> antifungals. 1200 mg/day Itraconazole".

I advise YOU to pay attention...this is the third time I've referred
to your struggle with Candidasis...yeah, I heard about it...remember?
>
> You obviously do not know that this effectively prevents any new Candida
> infections, but it is no help with the infection I already have.
>
> "Thirdly, I have told you many times that I got Candidiasis from over-use of
> exactly the crap that the Brorson's "recommend" (they don't but anyway),
> Metronidazole".

And I am NOT challenging you...but merely ASKING you...how can you be
so sure it was the Met...you seemed to admit that others had warned
you about over-administering antibiotics without an antifungal...and
that you had given yourself large doses of doxycycline...I am asking
you how you are so certain of causation...that's all.
>
> "You keep on telling me thaat I am lying about how I got Candididasis, you
> keep on denying I *have* candidiasis, you keep on asserting that doxy does
> not work against Lyme, you keep on saying that Metronidazole is not a huge
> risk of developing Candidiasis, you keep on misreading, misinterpreting,
> misconstruing my and other's statements, you are nothing but a fool and a
> dangerous fool at that".

That's bull***, Frank. I never said any such damn thing. Stop being
so damned sensitive. And it would be helpful if you stopped calling
everyone "fool". I don't KNOW whether bacteriostatic abx are as
effective as say, a cephalosporin...I don't KNOW, Frank...asking
questions...discussing...that's all.

You are probably, without a doubt, THE person with the largest opinion
of himself I have ever encountered...and completely unwarranted at
that.
>
> "As long as you don't offer a modicum of respect for others, others will
> never respect you".

You mean like, calling people "fool" and "punk" all the time?
>
> "You are essentially calling me a liar, you are essentially spreading
> nonsense about medical treatment of Lyme. You might be a nice person who
> means it well, but I am sensitive about being called a lying fool in public
> by a person who can't back this up with facts or logical reasoning".

Oh, grow up.

This is important stuff, Frank. Stop being such a whiner.

I never, ever said you were "lying", for goddsakes. What a sensitive
little baby.
>
> "I am sorry but my tolerance for abuse is linear with the amount of respect
> have for people's mental abilities in general and their argumentation for
> that abuse in particular".

Yes, I HAVE noticed that you tend not to value the opinions or "mental
abiliites" of people who disagree with you very highly.