Re: Dr. Fein

a_weisman_at_yahoo.com
Date: 02/01/05 

Date: 1 Feb 2005 09:17:22 -0800

Rita Stanley wrote:
> Lisa, your BS isn't even brown. Examine that.

Rita remember this is a Lisa impersonator NOT Lisa. (the only thing
worse than Lisa is someone pathological enough to impersonate her in
this case someone posting from LDA Jersey home base, Jackson NJ).

But you're right, this BS isn't even Brown.

> I note that organizations such as ILADS and LDA profess to support
non-IDSA
> doctors, yet all I hear from these camps is silence on this issue. I
am sure
> they have some excuse as to why they won't write a letter of support.
I am
> not even talking money here. It is pathetic that only 3 professionals
and
> LDF are lending their support. Of course, I do understand that Smith
doesn't
> get along with LDF, but a REAL leader would put aside such pettiness
and do
> somthing.

Apparently there is some negative history between the doctor and Pat
Smith, some dispute over legislation. I don't know the details but I do
know that one cannot question Pat Smith in any way--the pat doesn't
permit or tolerate dissent in any form.

> I note that LDA wants to collect money through support groups now.
So, folks
> are supposed to raise money for this organization, yet there is
nothing LDA
> will do to help the doctors who have a history of helping patients?
Fallon
> is good enough for them in trying to gather money, yet they and ILADS
are
> not going to follow his lead and write a letter of support?

Fallon is a stand up guy, a guy with some real integrity. He and his
practice are beyond reproach (though I don't think his study did much
to help, he did his best).

> Who gets the support then from these organizations if they run into
trouble
> practicing the way these orgs approve of? What is the selection
process?
> ILADS can support things like OHME OHMY yet not this doctor?

> People can send money or not. That is their own business. But what I
see
> hear is a lack of support by organizations that should be lending it
because
> that is one of the reasons they exist.

I think it is fundamentally outrageous that these doctors ask other
people to pay their legal bills period. Most people pay their own. And
honestly it is pretty outrageous for any of these doctors to be crying
poor given how much they charge, the fact that many don't accept
medicare from patients who can't afford to pay and have medicare, many
don't accept insurance period, and many actually sell vitamins and
other products at a significant profit, in addition to their medical
services, which is a fundamentally unethical thing to do even according
to the self serving wimps at the AMA who condemn almost nothing that
doctors do--they do condemn that practice. These products are passed
along with the same unsubstantiated claims made by the manufacturers
which the doctors can't and don't do anything to substantiate those
claims but pass them along to their patients without disclosing their
profit motive but think mistakenly that the doctor is advising them in
their best medical interests, well it is a nightmare.

But what is really outrageous is the rich doctors crying poor to the
patients many or most of whom have been terribly financially impacted
by this disease.

Dr Burrascano at one point whined that he'd have to dip into one of his
children's college funds--well most people aren't wealthy enough to
HAVE a college fund in the first place, and most Lyme patients who ever
did long ago depleted it to pay for their doctors and the items their
doctors are selling them.

Not all of course but too many are guilty of this.

> I am not the only one thinking this, but I am the one kicking this
out in
> public.
>
> Rita

And don't let psychos or psycho impersonators intimidate you, which, of
course, we know you won't.

Amazing that one of the people who is MOST divisive claims to have
concerns about divisions--well when "it" says this, "it" means that no
dissent should be tolerated--just like when Bush says bipartisan he
means the dems should go along with him rather than there be any
compromise.

And my criticisms of SOME "llmds" are entirely valid, and if they
avoided the pitfalls I point out, it would be easier to defend them.
But I am not and I know that you are not going to go along with the
"llmd right or wrong" attitude where "llmds" can do anything and never
be criticised. That only damages them and us and all of our
credibility.

> "LymeRayja" <lymerayja@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1107268356.492059.163680@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Rita Stanley, I share your concern for Dr Fein and urge everyone to
> support her fight. I also share your alarm at the divisions within
the
> patient's movement, and do believe that we should all pull together
> when one of our doctors or activists is victimised in this way.
>
> However, I think you should examine your own recent behavior on this
> list.Dr Fein states:
>
>
> Lisa

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