Re: Another Charming LymeNUT Thread LOL

a_weisman_at_yahoo.com
Date: 02/12/05 

Date: 12 Feb 2005 07:57:55 -0800

Martijn wrote:
> a_weisman@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > The "rules" over there are that you're not permitted to trash
people or
> > even accidentally offend their delicate sensibilities BUT if they
> > determine in their own "minds" that you're a "troll" or a "Camp A"
> > person, well anything goes.
>
> Yes, I noticed that.
>
> > Martijn if you recall I told you that is how it works over there.
You
> > now see for yourself that underneath the huggy huggy nonsense is a
> > pretty nasty streak.
>
> Yes I recall, but I thought that applied to a part of them, not all.
> I am still waiting for the messages with a different voice. There
MUST
> be some people there who have another opinion, but does no-one dare
to
> speak?
>
> > I saw the one preachy lecture telling YOU to examine YOUR HEART?
What
> > balderdash.
>
> Let's say it's true, I have in a rare moment made fun of people over
> there (actually, it wasn't funny, it was sad what was going on
there).
> But that is nothing compared to what they do to me now.
>
> I have posted sincere messages there and I have even defended them
here.
> But now I was of the opinion that the TROLL ALERTS and the
accusations
> of Areneli and zipzip were really nonsense and harmful.
> It seems they can't see or handle the truth. They chose to respond
with
> ad hominem attacks.
>
> They have distorted everything, they even say the problems on their
> messageboard are caused here!
> Are they really so blind, have they forgotten the ridiculous
> irresponsable attacks on Areneli and zippzip et al?
>
> We have a saying here in Friesland: "de wierheid hat in skel lūd",
> translated in English: "the truth has a shrill voice".
>
> > You're OUR favorite Martian!
>
> Thank you.
>
> > As to their nazi tactics, and why no one is defending you, remember
the
> > words of Martin Neimoller
>
> I spoke up for 2 people these days, and to help them I intentionally
> diverted the attention to me, because I thought people knew I am
sincere
> and would consider what I said. I sacrificed myself.
>
> Now I feel like I am being failed..
>
> TMT

Martijn: That is exactly the point. The rest of them have learned the
lesson NOT to speak up. That is what is so awful about censorship,
whether it be by deleting threads or by ostracization.

It results in homogeneous, incenstuous, defective ideas. Even worse
than the interpersonal nonsense, is when they declare someone a troll
because they don't like the ideas--they don't like hearing that some
alternative therapy is snake oil; or some "llmd" a crook; or that, some
symptoms aren't Lyme and that not everyone has Lyme.

And what has happened to you is that the good people haven't spoken up.
And those that falsely portray themselves as righteous but are truly
not, have prevailed.

But guess what? If it makes you feel better, when "they" come for the
good people remaining, there will be no one left to stand up for them.

http://www.hoboes.com/html/FireBlade/Politics/niemoller.shtml

First they came for the Communists,
  and I didn't speak up,
    because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
  and I didn't speak up,
    because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
  and I didn't speak up,
    because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
  and by that time there was no one
    left to speak up for me.

by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945

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