Re: Using IGeneX Urine Tests

a_weisman_at_yahoo.com
Date: 02/25/05 

Date: 25 Feb 2005 05:22:22 -0800

pmerv@direcway.com wrote:
> Let me clarify that I do not benefit personally, but the organization
I
> am associated with does benefit from the support of this lab for some
> projects, the latest being the special insurance issue of the
> LymeTimes, which they sponsored.
> I also promote permethrin products that can be purchased through SCS,
> although they do not support CALDA projects. I really think our job
is
> to serve the patients, not ourselves, and if we have opinions about
the
> best products based on our knowledge and experience, why not share
it?
> I agree that labs should be judged by the same standards. I don't
care
> who owns them. I wish there were more good labs. Currently I think 2
> are good, 1 ok and the rest, who knows or bad. If Allen Steere came
up
> with a sensitive and specific test that did not consign 30% of
patients
> to a living hell, I would support it.
> I started a new thread because I find the long threads confusing and
> it's hard to find things.

Phyllis, according to the information YOU provided (from Igenex) THEIR
test is NOT sensitive (if used alone it has a sensitivity of ONLY 20%
of so) and not particularly specific (89%).

I don't know whether Mdlabs even produces such figures, nor Bowen.
Mdlabs is doing tests that, so far as I know, have absolutely no
validation internally or externally (bacterial LOAD test? Where is that
validated? What is the method? What is a "high" "medium" or "low" load?
Where is any of this clinically correlated? Huh???) (PCRs I think could
be good but again where are the validation studies?) (WB for babesia?
Huh? Where is this validated? What bands are and are not significant?
Where is the study validating that? Huh?).

And then there is the Bowen lab. LOL

Aka Gensys 2.

With a test which miss "you can get Lyme from bedknobs and broomsticks
or was it doorknobs and pens?, helped to develop? Gimme a break. Yeah
EVERYONE ever tested had Lyme? Be serious.

Or maybe you meant SUNY Stonybrook. I wouldn't go there for treatment
but their testing is pretty good, including some research tests that
even Dr Liegner uses.

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