Re: Dr B and the Endocrinologist He Recommends

a_weisman_at_yahoo.com
Date: 03/28/05 

Date: 27 Mar 2005 17:16:15 -0800

eugeneshapiroisapig wrote:
> you've hit on an area that has been a concern for me.

Me too.

> I don't see Dr. B

Me neither. But I know people who do.

> and I don't know anything about his referral practices. However, I do
> know sonething of the endocrinologist you mention. Actually, I was
told
> about her by another person. I checked her out and discovered what
you
> mentioned. Also, don't quote me on this, but I believe that she
> actually is not an endocrinologist in the sense that she never did a
> fellowship, she's just joined an endocrinological association.

Actually she does appear to be a fellow (or gal) of the American
College of Endocrinology:

http://www.drspringer.medem.com/ypol/user/userMain.asp?siteid=1805615&content=userCustomPage&bcx=My%20Doctor^TAB~Web%20Site^MNU~Dr.%20Springer^PST^1805615~Dr.%20Springer%27s%20Curriculum%20Vitae^CAT^9&pageid=394101&rndm=0.1690488

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> That being said, I have no ideas about her competence as a
> physician. The legal troubles stemmed from her continued use of phen
> fen after it was banned.

Allegedly conspiring to import it into the US and then sell it to/use
it on patients.

And if you look at the board action, there is more detailed.

> When this name was mentioned to me, I decided not to see her for
> two reasons. One, she has never had proper endocrinological training,
> and two, I felt like as a person with lyme and an endocrine disorder,
> that it better served the cause if I were to see an academic
> endocrinologist who could see what was going on for himself. Although
> with problems directly related to lyme treatment issues sometimes you
> have no choice but to see an LLMD, with peripheral health issues the
> situation is different and can be viewed as an opportunity to expose
> mainstream medicine to LD issues as a form of education.
> Most of the LLMD type doctors I have been exposed to have been
> pretty ethical, solid individuals.

Some of em are. Some of em aren't.

>Some have gone to elite schools for
> portions of their education.

Not most of em but some of em.

> But there is one other doctor I can think
> of who struck me as a total fraud who is just ripping people off
> without much scientific basis. By this I mean just really going off
the
> deep end.

Well there are several of great concern to those of us who care.

Several of em at the OHME OHMY conference. And one in PA, one in MD,
one in Atlanta, one in Cal etc.

> This is an issue that lyme patients need to be aware of. Not
every
> "LLMD" is an angel.

Yup and there is a very unfortunate and unwise "my llmd right or wrong"
attitude amongst those in Lymeland particularly the Lymenutters.

>Most are decent, but there are a few vultures out
> there. I definitely wouldn't include burrascano in this group.

Neither would I. But he is a moron when it comes to politics and has
made some disastrously bad asssociations (FAIM, Jackie Springer etc.)
And jumped on lots of bandwagons (John Martin, Shoemaker, Gensys, Bowen
labs).

And he really needs to avoid even the slightest appearance of
impropriety--but doesn't do so.

In fact the very day that Lymeland learned of his OPMC charges he
posted a link to a multi level vitamin marketing company known to be
trouble and in trouble with the FTC etc on his website.

Not smart.

Very self centered too--after 9/11 rather than rushing into NYC to help
people he compared himself to 9/11 victims being targeted by OMPC
terrorism. Incredibly insensitive of him.

And wasn't totally honest about what happened with OPMC
either--declared himself "cleared" when in truth he was convicted of a
charge and put on a period of probation and supervision.

> And
> sometimes desperation and a shortage of LLMDs forces people to be
> utilitarian and visit doctors who have shady reputations.

Yes. But beware of them

>But it is
> important that lyme patients and their advocates realize that by
> praising every "LLMD" they may be setting themselves up for real
> problems, because then the other side can go to 60 minutes or
something
> like this and cause real propaganda damage.

Yup