Re: suck out pathogens with a mini-pump?


Martijn wrote:
> Frank de Groot wrote:
>
> > With snake venom, perhaps this works, but with bacteria it won't
bec. you
> > need just a few spirochetes to enter the bloodstream and the harm
has been
> > done.
>
> Yes, then it's too late. But maybe the pathogens first stay in the
skin,
> stay localized.

I don't think so. Ticks suck blood. As they do so they transmit
pathogens into the bloodstream. Once they're in there they disseminate
quickly. All it takes is one or a few spirochetes which then divide and
reproduce so I don't think the mini pump (or a maxi pump) would work.

Snake venom is different. The venom is toxic but the greater the
quantity of toxin the greater the impact. Sucking some venom out
reduces the overall quantity of venom. Unlike bacteria, venom doesn't
reproduce.

> I wonder, if the pathogens can disseminate so quickly, does the
dividing
> into early localized infection and disseminated infection make sense?
> And the dividing into 3 stages make sense?

I think that one has to consider the "staging" to be a "model" and
realize that reality diverges from the model with great frequency.

Sort of like the rash. There is such a variety of rashes and the
bullseye while quite distinctive is not the most common appearance of a
Lyme rash. Still it is classic and (should be) easy to spot and make
diagnosis easy when it occurs like that. A rash that varies from the
bullseye is probably more common but diagnostically not as easy (*of
course, that doesn't prevent frequent misdiagnosis of Lyme rashes as
spider bites even in areas where the spider whose bite causes an
annular lesion are NEVER found such as in California and the NE United
States).

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