Re: Derdritemann - past quotes

Filthy why are you even trying to have a debate with der dritte mann?

Hes a sociopath kahtleen diagnosed him and she should know shes read
the book on the topic, she used to live with one.

Hes a lying steere camp swine.

Filthy McNasty wrote:
> Simple question for you then Clarence old pal...
>
> ...is Lyme disease supposed to be diagnosed by serolgy alone?
>
>
> Yes?
>
>
> Or...no? >>>
>
> well, if you asked me, I would amend the above statement to "a
> diagnosis of lyme disease should not be made or excluded on the basis
> of serologic results. severe cases of lyme disease can be seronegative
> in all stages of the illness. several such cases have resulted in
> fatality due to delayed treatment. furthermore the serologic testing
> standards implemented by the CDC in 1994 are highly questionable and
> unreliable"
>
> however, you're missing the point. you have still provided zero
> evidence that the average physician is aware that this is what is meant
> in the special context of lyme disease by the ubiquitous term "clinical
> diagnosis" in other words, there is no correlation between the
> statement "lyme should not be diagnosed by serology alone" and the
> phrase "clinical diagnosis". moreover, the statement "lyme disease
> should not be diagnosed by serology alone" is highly flawed in that it
> does not clearly elaborate on the seronegative phenomena; indeed, a
> physician reading this may simple decide that every lyme case requires
> positive serology, PLUS other manifestations. this statement, in other
> words, is exclusionary of seronegative cases, and thus very
> questionable from an ethical standpoint.

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