Re: Enzyme to DISSOLVE Spirochetes?


"lisasawitch"

<lisasawitch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
>
> IAmNotLisa wrote:
> > What?
> > You think I'm crazy?
>
> Yes absolutely certifiable.
>
> The souther brair rabbit baby talk pretty much cinches it.


DerDurtyMoron!!
Is dat you?!
R U dressing up in Cyber-Drag, AGAIN??

Now, you pose quite a question, but with no choices.
If "Lisa's A Witch"... then, witch is it?
Lisa is something. Witch?
And witch Lisa are you referencing?
I don't know witcha way to go with your wild assertions...

BTW, I am NOT Lisa.

And if anyone around here is a Wascally Wabbit, it's you!


> > I KNOW I read a story somewhere, sometime ago
> > that spoke, I think (therefore I am) about LIZARDS in California
> > who made a wittle enzyme in their wittle tummies that was SPECIFIC
> > to Dissolving the Protein Coating of Spirochetes.


> It is a protein not an enzyme in their blood not in their tummies.
> Nothing about it being specific to dissolving the protein coating of
> spirochetes.


Otay! that (dis)Solves the Mystery of the Lyzzard.

Maybe someday instead of an enzyme tab,
we'll just be able to down a protein shake in the morn to combat Lyme.


> I guess that is just a hallucination in your obviously syphillitic
> excuse for a brain.


Whoa DDM, that's a bit harsh... especially for someones as delicate
as me. I'm such a sensitive soul... and I do believe I feel the vapors
coming on . . . : : : f a i n t : : :

"syphillitic"... hmmm, are YOU getting your spirochetes mixed up?
and you were so concise about your proteins vs. enzymes.


> They don't know the mechanism for this protection.


Who is "they"?


> But here's the info on the Western Fence Lizard:
>
>
> Lizards Slow Lyme Disease in West / Ticks bite them -- and leave with
> purified blood
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1998/04/17/MN65130.DTL
>
>
> Lizards Slow Lyme Disease in West
> Ticks bite them -- and leave with purified blood
> Sabin Russell, Chronicle Staff Writer
>
> Friday, April 17, 1998
>
> It may sound like witchcraft, but Berkeley scientists have found that
> ticks who feast on the blood of the common western fence lizard are
> purged of any Lyme disease bacteria hiding in their gut.
>
> The newly published findings may explain why there is less tick- borne
> Lyme disease in California than in the eastern United States, where the
> debilitating illness was first discovered and given its name.
>
> Researchers suspect that a yet- to-be-identified protein in the
> lizard's blood destroys the microbes that would otherwise flourish in
> the tick's belly and can be later transmitted to human victims.
>
> ``We've speculated on this for years, and now we have fairly good
> evidence that this is the case,'' said Robert Lane, a University of
> California at Berkeley insect biologist who has been studying ticks and
> Lyme disease for more than a decade.
>
> Lane and his colleague Gary Quistad conducted a series of laboratory
> experiments using young Lyme disease-infected ticks and fence lizards.
> In the nymphal stage during which they feed on the blood of lizards,
> the ticks are only about the size of a poppy seed. But it is common to
> find 30 to 40 at one time sharing the blood of a single fence lizard.
>
> Although infected adult female ticks pose a serious threat of
> transmitting Lyme disease to humans, the smaller nymphal ticks are the
> most dangerous because they are harder to find and are still capable of
> transmitting the disease.
>
> Lane had determined eight years ago that the lizards appeared to be
> immune to Lyme disease despite infestation with tick nymphs. His latest
> research, published recently in the Journal of Parasitology, suggest
> why this happens.
>
> The experiments first ruled out the possibility that antibodies
> produced by the lizard's immune system were able to neutralize the Lyme
> disease bacteria.
>
> Test tube experiments found that Lyme disease bacteria bathed in
> lizard's blood died within one hour, while control samples grown in
> mouse blood lasted three days.
>
> In another experiment, the researchers heated lizard blood to the
> boiling point, and found that it no longer killed the bacteria in a
> test tube. The sum of these tests points to what Lane calls a
> ``spirochete-killing factor'' that is probably a large protein.
>
> ``It's an extremely important paper,'' said Vicky Kramer, chief of the
> vector-borne disease section of the California Department of Health
> Services.
>
> Researchers are now trying to determine the precise nature of the Lyme
> disease-killing protein, and perhaps find out if it can be used to
> create a treatment for the disease. Lane said he has not yet discussed
> his findings with biotechnology companies.
>
> California health officials long have been pleasantly puzzled by the
> fact that Lyme disease is a relative rarity in the state, despite an
> abundance of ticks. Lane points out that in the eastern regions with
> higher Lyme disease rates, ``they don't have fence lizards there.''
>
> Berkeley's Tilden Park served as the field laboratory for Lane, where
> he previously also uncovered a curious quirk about Lyme disease and the
> black-legged ticks that carry it there: the infection rates for young
> ticks, while low, was three to four times higher than the rate in adult
> ticks. The latest findings again suggest why: When young nymphal ticks
> feed on the fence lizards, the mysterious protein not only protects the
> lizard from infection -- it actually leaches into the tick's gut and
> kills the bacteria there.
>
> Lab tests showed that when infected nymphs fed on the lizards, and then
> metamorphosed into adult ticks, they were no longer infected.
>
> According to Robert Murray, epidemiologist at the state health
> department's Division of Communicable Disease Control, the percentage
> of infected deer ticks in high Lyme disease areas such as Connecticut
> is 30 to 60 percent. But the percentage of black-legged ticks -- the
> closely related cousins that carry Lyme disease in California -- is
> only 1 to 2 percent, and only as high as 6 percent in areas such as
> Mendocino county, where the most Lyme disease cases are found.
>
> In California, only about one in every 200,000 persons is infected with
> Lyme disease. In Connecticut, where Lyme disease was first discovered
> in the rural town of Lyme, the rate is 100 times higher.
>
> Lyme disease does occur in California, particularly in coastal zones
> that provide a moist, forested environment favored by the ticks. In
> Mendocino County, the rate is about 50 per 200,000, and in Humboldt
> County, it is 20 per 200,000.
>
> Scientists caution that Lane's findings do not prove the case that the
> lizard helps protect western Americans from Lyme disease. ``It may be
> one of many factors,'' said Kramer.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> LIZARDS, TICKS AND LYME DISEASE
> UC Berkeley entomologist Robert Lane has discovered that a subtance
> found in the blood of the common western fence lizard kills Lyme
> disease bacteria in the gut of juvenile ticks that feed on it. It may
> help explain why there is far less Lyme disease in California than in
> the eastern United States, where the lizard does not live. The western
> fence lizard -- a commonly found species dubbed the blue belly lizard
> in California - can carry an average of 30 juvenile black legged ticks,
> which are about the size of a poppy seed. Three stages of tick
> development Larval Ticks pass through three stages of development.
> During each stage they eat one ``blood meal.'' Larval ticks become
> infected with Lyme disease when they feed on rodents.
> Nymphal Tiny tick nymphs can transmit Lyme disease by biting a human.
> If they feast on a common western lizard, however, something in the
> reptile's blood appears to kill the bacteria
>
> Adult Adult black-legged ticks move off the forest floor and onto
> plants and grasses. Those who feasted on lizards as nymphs are less
> likely to transmit Lyme disease to humans.
>
> Source: National Institutes of Health and Chronicle Research Lizard
> photo courtesy of Jack Kelly Clark, tick photo courtesy of Robert S.
> Lane
>
> California Academy of Sciences - Science Now
>
>
http://www.calacademy.org/science_now/archive/wild_lives/fence_lizards_050601.html
>
> Lizards That Fight Lyme Disease
>
> One of the most common lizards in California, the western fence lizard,
> helps to battle Lyme disease.
>
> Hiking in the Sierras or strolling along a vacant lot, you will likely
> encounter one of these spiny, granite-colored lizards doing vigorous
> pushups. Males have iridescent blue throats and bellies and pushups
> flash the bright color to court females or defend their territories
> from encroaching males.
>
> These showy lizards provide more benefits to humans than just
> entertainment. A protein in their blood kills the bacterium that causes
> Lyme disease.Western black-legged ticks (Ixodes scapularis) carry the
> bacterium, Borrelia burgdorferi, in their guts, which they can transfer
> to a human after biting and remaining attached for 24 to 48 hours. But
> a tick that sucks the blood of a fence lizard is cleansed of Borrelia,
> and its bite reduced to nothing more than a nuisance.
>
> Western fence lizards (Sceloporus occidentalis), commonly known as
> "blue-bellies," occur in a wide variety of habitats throughout
> California except for extreme desert environments. They can be found
> from sea level up to 9,000 feet in areas of broken canopy with rocks,
> fallen logs, or other structures like old buildings and woodpiles
>
> Google Search: western fence lizard lyme
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=western+fence+lizard+lyme&btnG=Google+Search


Why now, DDM, that was mighty schweet of you to supply
me with so much information. Mah brane is jes spinnin' it is!
It is the nicest thing, the most helpful thing you've ever done.
Fact, it is the ONLY helpful thing I've seen you engage in.


> > I sheat you not!


> Yes you do.


No, I was not BSing. It was a legit inquiry and personal experience.


> > Now, I take a daily dose of digestive enzymes - 2 tabs per meal,
> > that I practically JONES over if I miss taking them - they help so much
> > in regulating and making the whole digestive process go so much more
> > smoothly in melting down all those heavy proteins and all...


> Goodie for you. Maybe if I took them it would be easier to swallow your
> never ending psychotic bs?


Now, DDM (I gets tarred of schpelling out yo full name...)
and you the main one around these here parts who regularly
"Strains Out The Gnat, But GULPS Down The Camel..."


> > so,
> > since the genome of the spirochete has been broken down & "decoded",
> > and since that should tell us what departments the nasty bugger is weak
in,
> > and since there supposedly is a lizard enzyme that causes a meltdown
> > of a spirochete's protein coating (wouldn't that work for ALL strains of
> > Bb?)
> > then, will it come to taking a few Highly Specific Enzyme Tablets Daily
> > to wipe out Lyme disease?


> One plus one equals fifty quazillion? Your assumptions are all
> completely wrong. Don't give up your day job to become a researcher for
> a cure. If you can call being a raving psychotic a day job.


Ewwww, DDM, I betcha that, since you're so full of piss and vinegar,
and bile and gall, that if you swallowed a spoonful of baking soda
you would done BLOW UP!!


> > And do Deer maybe have this same enzyme?
> > And has anyone gone on the "Deer Diet"?, cause I swear, when I was
> > up in New York's Bambi-Land for four years, thirty years ago,
> > I saw HORDES of deer, but don't ever remember seeing a deer who
> > appeared sick - or, (uhmmhu-uhhm!...(clearing my throat))...
> > a deer who had Lyme Disease!


> First get a clue. Maybe you can purchase one somewhere. Again you're
> totally wrong.


It was a Yoke, you yokel!


> > Haarrrrr-harr!!!


Schee? I'm laughing. A joke. GAWD ain't you the deadly serious one.


> > A Deer with Lyme Disease- see, I tolt you I weren't krazy.

> Saying it doesn't make it true. Your behavior belies your above
> statement. You aren't just crazy or krazy, you're something way far
> past that.
>
> SNIP remainder of psycho ravings.


Well, I do declare! and you started out seemingly helpful.
It's going to take so time for your full repentance.
I shall pray for your mortal coil, however.

Love & Kisses,

I-AN-L




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