Re: "Bartonella may occasionally be transmitted by ticks"

gotta chime in like a smart ass-

rednecks {who, let's face it, is really mr. ed} mentioned that ~ 80% of
humans demonstrated exposure to bartonella.
well, at least that percentage demonstrate exposure to human papilloma
virus...
and fauci wants a vaccine for that, because of the resulting ~3000
cases/year of cervical cancer. while it is unlikely, but not
demonstrated, that bartonella causes such severe sequelae - the point
is that an infectious agent to which most people have experienced
exposure CAN cause dangerous sequelae in a small number of susceptible
individuals. it is erroneous to assume that commonality of exposure
equates to presumed harmlessness of the agent involved. this is not
always the case. millions of young woman will soon face mandatory (i
think) vaccination for precisely this reason. and the FACT is, very
little is known about bartonella in humans. could it be along the same
lines as borna virus or the recently discussed spiroplasm? Probably
not, but if you just close the door without being careful...you could
impede progress.

also, rednecks ....terrible logical error there in thinking that "if
lyme were immunocompromising, we would see {an AIDS-like syndrome}...or
something of this nature.

FACT...the immune system is much more complicated than you give it
credit for. there are multiple levels at which "compromise" can occur.
AIDS is devastating, but it is a retrovirus. lyme, the last time I
checked, is a spirochete - a bacteria. there are dozens {if not more}
of different syndromes other than aids which result in
"immunocompromise". do they all present in exactly the same fashion as
AIDS? No. lyme has been postulated to be a more chronic, less acute
infection than full blown aids for an extreme comparison {and obviously
not as fatal}. how can you be certain that there is not similarly
"immunocompromise", of a less obvious and thus less detectable and easy
to understand level? you're comparing a dramatic illness, aids, with a
totally different entity. science is not so cut and dry. it is far more
complex than you give credit. simply making ASSumptions like this is
what has crippled lyme clinical research in humans for the past 15
years.

this is a blanket generalization - of the same sort of fallacy which
klempner employed when he so stupidly compared borellia species to
treponema. it's not an intelligent thing to say. very arrogant, and
assumes much knowledge which you simply do not possess. for shits sake,
your statements...ludicrously arrogant and insulting, really....what is
the sequence homology of the borellia genus with other genuses? you
know the answer to that. how many protein structures have been
elucidated? do we know exactly what even a FRACTION of them do? etc.

you must have been involved in the OspA debacle.

the janitor

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