Re: Kathleen, take my name off your website/attention callyme
- From: oklahomaisforredneckjerks@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: 29 Nov 2005 22:40:02 -0800
Please explain?
We NEED someone with all of kathLOON's "data"
Like a hole in the head!
oklahomaisforredneckje...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Calyme, why do you encourage and enable kathLOON?
>
> I still don't get it.
>
>
> Mockingbird wrote:
> > CaliforniaLyme wrote:
> > > I haven't beeen reading any O/T threads...
> >
> > Here it is for you Callyme. Do you have any coments? Or are you going
> > to IGNORE kathLOON's holocaust denying anti semitic vile white power
> > nazi skinhead conspiracy crap and then come back and condemn others?
> >
> > And go encourage and enable her some more. Saw you do it quite recently
> > on another group.
> >
> > Here's a quote--it was in response to kathLOON's VERSION of her most
> > recent parole violation hearing:
> >
> > "From: californialyme@...
> > Date: Wed Oct 5, 2005 11:32 am
> > Subject: Re: [SpinLyme] This is nothing like what happened
> > californialyme@...
> > Send Email
> >
> > More harm than good for you to contact them, K. Good try though- I'm
> > sorry
> > it came out this way. They have effectively nullified your ability re
> > press
> > IMO.
> > We need someone else with all your data- "
> >
> > Nice job callyme!
> >
> > Might as well validate her conspiracy theories for her. Real helpful.
> >
> > So here it is, PROOF THAT KATHLOON IS AN ANTISEMITIC MOSSAD OBSESSED
> > NAZI! AND THAT SHE POSTED AS "CHUCKPMCSWEEGAN @ YAHOO.COM )
> >
> >
> > Do a search for "mossad" Callyme.
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/search?group=sci..med.diseases.lyme&q=mossad&qt_g=1&searchnow=Search+this+group
> >
> > And find a post by "chuckpmcsweegan @ yahoo.com and search for "all
> > posts by this author" and you'll see THAT was kathLOOn and likely so is
> >
> > CALC
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?enc_author=0IBJRxkAAABYVS5ZA0Yd4SGSXm2KNFLi-tpoT5PwLSR6UIHNBXIAZQ&scoring=d
> >
> > This is the kind of crap that YOU ARE AN ENABLER OF!!!
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/936a57fc4b1c...
> >
> >
> >
> > kathleen
> > Oct 31, 10:23 am hide options
> >
> >
> > Newsgroups: sci.med.diseases.lyme,
> > alt.support.child-protective-services, alt.support.autism
> > From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@xxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this
> > author
> > Date: 31 Oct 2005 07:23:31 -0800
> > Local: Mon, Oct 31 2005 10:23 am
> > Subject: The Mother of all Scandals- 9/11 and Israeli spies
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> >
> > 2001 It is discovered that US drug agents' communications have been
> > penetrated. Suspicion falls on two companies, AMDOCS and Comverse
> > Infosys, both owned by Israelis. AMDOCS generates billing data for most
> >
> >
> >
> > US phone companies and is able to provide detailed logs of who is
> > talking to whom. Comverse Infosys builds the tapping equipment used by
> > law enforcement to eavesdrop on all American telephone calls, but
> > suspicion forms that Comverse, which gets half of its research and
> > development budget from the Israeli government, has built a back door
> > into the system that is being exploited by Israeli intelligence and
> > that the information gleaned on US drug interdiction efforts is finding
> >
> >
> >
> > its way to drug smugglers. The investigation by the FBI leads to the
> > exposure of the largest foreign spy ring ever uncovered inside the
> > United States, operated by Israel. Half of the suspected spies have
> > been arrested when 9-11 happens. On 9-11, 5 Israelis are arrested for
> > dancing and cheering while the World Trade Towers collapse. Supposedly
> > employed by Urban Moving Systems, the Israelis are caught with multiple
> >
> >
> >
> > passports and a lot of cash. Two of them are later revealed to be
> > Mossad. As witness reports track the activity of the Israelis, it
> > emerges that they were seen at Liberty Park at the time of the first
> > impact, suggesting a foreknowledge of what was to come. The Israelis
> > are interrogated, and then eventually sent back to Israel. The owner of
> >
> >
> >
> > the moving company used as a cover by the Mossad agents abandons his
> > business and flees to Israel. The United States Government then
> > classifies all of the evidence related to the Israeli agents and their
> > connections to 9-11. All of this is reported to the public via a four
> > part story on Fox News by Carl Cameron. Pressure from Jewish groups,
> > primarily AIPAC, forces Fox News to remove the story from their
> > website. Two hours prior to the 9-11 attacks, Odigo, an Israeli company
> >
> >
> >
> > with offices just a few blocks from the World Trade Towers, receives an
> >
> >
> >
> > advance warning via the internet. The manager of the New York Office
> > provides the FBI with the IP address of the sender of the message, but
> > the FBI does not follow up.
> >
> >
> > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/motherofallscandals.html
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/79f341261f12...
> >
> > kathleen
> > Nov 4, 3:23 pm hide options
> >
> >
> > Newsgroups: sci.med.diseases.lyme, misc.health.alternative,
> > talk.politics.medicine, alt.support.breast-implant
> > From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@xxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this
> > author
> > Date: 4 Nov 2005 12:23:44 -0800
> > Local: Fri, Nov 4 2005 3:23 pm
> > Subject: Osama bin Libby, Osama bin Cheney...
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> >
> > Saddam WhozBush
> > Osama bin Mossad
> > Saddam WhozBlair
> >
> >
> > Osama bin Kissinger...
> >
> >
> > Kathleen
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/c5f7da3f5460...
> >
> >
> >
> > kathleen
> > Oct 24, 7:58 am hide options
> >
> >
> > Newsgroups: sci.med.diseases.lyme, misc.health.alternative,
> > talk.politics.medicine, alt.support.breast-implant
> > From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@xxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this
> > author
> > Date: 24 Oct 2005 05:58:35 -0700
> > Local: Mon, Oct 24 2005 7:58 am
> > Subject: Re: Case for WTC Tower Demolition Sealed by David Ray Griffin
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> >
> >
> > Agree.
> >
> >
> > The towers fell into their own footprint exactly
> > like all the professional demolitions I have seen.
> >
> >
> > Oddly timed.
> >
> >
> > Unnatural looking.
> >
> >
> > The smaller buildings had no reason to go down.
> > They were definitely blown up, but the explosives
> > would have been long previously set in place.
> >
> >
> > Since Al Quaeda claimed to have done the work,
> > and since Bin Laden remarked that he did not
> > expect the towers to collapse, tells me the
> > US government knew about it, *allowed it to happen,*
> > and co-orchestrated the result.
> >
> >
> > Very much like Pearl Harbor. The aircraft carriers
> > were out to sea and not in the harbor during the
> > Japanese attack.
> >
> >
> > Knowing absolutely nothing else but what I have
> > seen with my own eyes, and watching the Bin Laden
> > tape, it appears Bush Inc., knew this attack
> > was coming and they optimized it.
> >
> >
> > Kathleen
> >
> >
> > Cytyzens Agaynst Lyme Cryme wrote:
> >
> >
> > - Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/0a09e4f3a055...
> >
> >
> >
> > kathleen
> > Oct 29, 11:58 am hide options
> >
> >
> > Newsgroups: sci.med.diseases.lyme
> > From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@xxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this
> > author
> > Date: 29 Oct 2005 09:58:31 -0700
> > Local: Sat, Oct 29 2005 11:58 am
> > Subject: WTC -7 Part of the New Pearl Harbor
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> >
> >
> >
> > Frank de Groot wrote:
> > > >> No jet fuel, no debris to speak of, no black boxes, no human remains. Not
> > > >> even the rescue dogs fount the tiniest piece.
> > > > Weird.
> > > Not weird at all. They had plans (which are now public) to fake attacks, so
> > > that they would have an excuse to start a war and a global military
> > > dictatorship. PNAC has published that they needed a "New Pearl Harbor" to
> > > get this accomplished. "New Pearl Harbor" was exactly what the US media
> > > called, naming 6,000 dead "Just a bit more than Pearl Harbor", until they
> > > were forced to admit they had been lying, "We called all the dead twice",
> > > and had to say the truth, namely 3,000.
> >
> >
> > You are right.
> >
> > Building 7 of the World Trade Center was clearly
> > already stacked and loaded with explosives ready
> > for a planned implosion.
> >
> >
> > Everyone ignores that.
> >
> >
> > The Bush administration optimized the intelligence.
> >
> >
> > They knew the attack was coming, so they made the best of
> > it.
> >
> >
> > The USA collapsed the WTC towers. The buildings
> > should not have collapsed.
> >
> >
> > Especially 7.
> >
> >
> > http://www.wtc7.net/
> >
> >
> > Kathleen
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/169f506a286a.....
> >
> > professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTCAll 19 messages in topic
> >
> > - view as tree
> > kathleen
> > Nov 11, 4:13 pm hide options
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> >
> > Newsgroups: sci.med.diseases.lyme, alt.impeach.bush
> > From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@xxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this
> > author
> > Date: 11 Nov 2005 13:13:11 -0800
> > Local: Fri, Nov 11 2005 4:13 pm
> > Subject: Y. professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC
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> > http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635160132,00.html
> >
> >
> > deseretnews.com
> >
> >
> > Deseret Morning News, Thursday, November 10, 2005
> >
> >
> > Y. professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC
> >
> >
> > By Elaine Jarvik
> > Deseret Morning News
> >
> >
> > The physics of 9/11 - including how fast and symmetrically one of the
> > World Trade Center buildings fell - prove that official explanations
> > of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young University physics
> > professor.
> >
> >
> > In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives" in all
> >
> >
> >
> > three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones.
> >
> >
> > In a paper posted online Tuesday and accepted for peer-reviewed
> > publication next year, Jones adds his voice to those of previous
> > skeptics, including the authors of the Web site www.wtc7.net, whose
> > research Jones quotes. Jones' article can be found at
> > www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html.
> > Image
> > "It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three
> > (WTC) buildings," BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones says.
> >
> >
> > Stuart Johnson, Deseret Morning News
> >
> >
> > Jones, who conducts research in fusion and solar energy at BYU, is
> > calling for an independent, international scientific investigation
> > "guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by
> > observations and calculations.
> >
> >
> > "It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three
> > buildings and set off after the two plane crashes - which were
> > actually a diversion tactic," he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to
> >
> >
> >
> > blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes.
> >
> >
> > As for speculation about who might have planted the explosives, Jones
> > said, "I don't usually go there. There's no point in doing that until
> > we do the scientific investigation."
> >
> >
> > Previous investigations, including those of FEMA, the 9/11 Commission
> > and NIST (the National Institutes of Standards and Technology), ignore
> > the physics and chemistry of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001, to the
> > Twin Towers and the 47-story building known as WTC 7, he says. The
> > official explanation - that fires caused structural damage that
> > caused the buildings to collapse - can't be backed up by either
> > testing or history, he says.
> >
> >
> > Jones acknowledges that there have been "junk science" conspiracy
> > theories about what happened on 9/11, but "the explosive demolition
> > hypothesis better satisfies tests of repeatability and parsimony and
> > therefore is not 'junk science.' "
> >
> >
> > In a 9,000-word article that Jones says will be published in the book
> > "The Hidden History of 9/11," by Elsevier, Jones offers these
> > arguments:
> >
> >
> > · The three buildings collapsed nearly symmetrically, falling down
> > into their footprints, a phenomenon associated with "controlled
> > demolition" - and even then it's very difficult, he says. "Why would
> > terrorists undertake straight-down collapses of WTC-7 and the Towers
> > when 'toppling over' falls would require much less work and would do
> > much more damage in downtown Manhattan?" Jones asks. "And where would
> > they obtain the necessary skills and access to the buildings for a
> > symmetrical implosion anyway? The 'symmetry data' emphasized here,
> > along with other data, provide strong evidence for an 'inside' job."
> >
> >
> > · No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings, has
> > ever collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever steel
> > columns, he says.
> >
> >
> > · WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6
> > seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object
> > dropped from the roof to hit the ground. "Where is the delay that must
> > be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational
> > laws of physics?" he asks. "That is, as upper-falling floors strike
> > lower floors - and intact steel support columns - the fall must be
> > significantly impeded by the impacted mass. . . . How do the upper
> > floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the
> > collapsing buildings?" The paradox, he says, "is easily resolved by the
> >
> >
> >
> > explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly removed
> > lower-floor material, including steel support columns, and allow near
> > free-fall-speed collapses." These observations were not analyzed by
> > FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.
> >
> >
> > · With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a
> > piling up of shattering concrete. But most of the material in the
> > towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were
> > falling, he says. "How can we understand this strange behavior, without
> >
> >
> >
> > explosives? Remarkable, amazing - and demanding scrutiny since the
> > U.S. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon."
> >
> >
> > · Horizontal puffs of smoke, known as squibs, were observed
> > proceeding up the side the building, a phenomenon common when
> > pre-positioned explosives are used to demolish buildings, he says.
> >
> >
> > · Steel supports were "partly evaporated," but it would require
> > temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel - and
> > neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that
> >
> >
> >
> > hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a
> >
> >
> >
> > few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about 20
> > minutes in any given location, he says.
> >
> >
> > · Molten metal found in the debris of the World Trade Center may have
> > been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly used
> > explosive such as thermite, he says. Buildings not felled by explosives
> >
> >
> >
> > "have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large
> > quantities of metal," Jones says.
> >
> >
> > · Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by
> > numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions
> > occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says.
> >
> >
> > Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC collapse
> > after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had had a
> > near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if you
> > think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire, you
> > have a lot of surprises ahead of you," Jones remembers, at which point
> > "everyone around me started applauding."
> >
> >
> > Following several months of study, he presented his findings at a talk
> > at BYU in September.
> >
> >
> > Jones says he would like the government to release 6,899 photographs
> > and 6,977 segments of video footage for "independent scrutiny." He
> > would also like to analyze a small sample of the molten metal found at
> > Ground Zero.
> >
> >
> > E-mail: jar...@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > © 2005 Deseret News Publishing Company
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/a8ada40a15d2...
> >
> >
> >
> > kathleen
> > Nov 5, 5:36 pm hide options
> >
> >
> > Newsgroups: sci.med.diseases.lyme, misc.health.alternative,
> > talk.politics.medicine, alt.support.breast-implant
> > From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@xxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this
> > author
> > Date: 5 Nov 2005 14:36:12 -0800
> > Local: Sat, Nov 5 2005 5:36 pm
> > Subject: The Physics of 9/11
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> > WTC collapses due to controlled demolition
> >
> >
> > Steven E. Jones
> >
> >
> > Professor of Physics/BYU
> >
> >
> > Dear colleagues:
> >
> >
> > I hope you have taken the minute required to actually look at the fall
> > of WTC 7:
> >
> >
> > http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/7drxn
> > I believe WTC collapses to be due to controlled demolition are:
> >
> >
> > 1. My own analysis of the "pancaking" floors model (the FEMA/NIST
> > model) combined with Conservation of Momentum considerations gives a
> > much longer time for the fall (over 10 seconds) than that which was
> > actually observed for WTC-7 (about 6.3 seconds, just over the free-fall
> >
> >
> >
> > time of 6.0 seconds). I find no evidence in their reports that
> > government researchers (FEMA, NIST, 9-11 Commission) included
> > Conservation of Momentum in their analyses.
> >
> >
> > 2. The fact that WTC-7 fell down symmetrically, onto its own footprint
> > very neatly, even though fires were just observed on one side of the
> > building. A symmetrical collapse, as observed, requires the
> > simultaneous "pulling" of support beams. By my count, there were 24
> > core columns and 57 perimeter columns in WTC-7. Heat transport
> > considerations for steel beams heated by fire suggest that failure of
> > even a few columns at the same time is very small. Adding in the Second
> >
> >
> >
> > Law of Thermodynamics ("law of increasing entropy") leads to the
> > conclusion that the likelihood of near-symmetrical collapse of the
> > building due to fires (the "government" theory) -- requiring as it does
> >
> >
> >
> > near-simultaneous failure of many support columns -- is infinitesimal.
> > Yet near-symmetrical collapse of WTC-7 was observed. (If you still
> > haven't gone to the links above to see the actual collapse for
> > yourself, please go there now.)
> >
> >
> > Note that the 9-11 Commission report does not even deal with the
> > collapse of WTC-7. This is a striking omission of highly relevant data.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3.Squibs (horizontal puffs of smoke and debris) are observed emerging
> > from WTC-7, in regular sequence, just as the building starts to
> > collapse. (SEE: http://tinyurl.com/7drxn ) Yet the floors have not
> > moved relative to one another yet, as one can verify from the videos,
> > so air-expulsion due to collapsing floors is excluded. I have
> > personally examined many building demolitions based on on-line videos,
> > and the presence of such squibs firing in rapid sequence as observed is
> >
> >
> >
> > prima facie evidence for the use of pre-positioned explosives inside
> > the building.
> >
> >
> > 4. The pulverization of concrete to powder and the horizontal ejection
> > of steel beams for hundreds of
> > yards, observed clearly in the collapses of the WTC towers, requires
> > much more energy than is available from gravitational potential energy
> > alone. Explosives will give the observed features. Other scientists
> > have provided quantitative analysis of the observed pulverizations, and
> >
> >
> >
> > I can provide references if you wish. Here we are appealing to the
> > violation of Conservation of Energy inherent in the "official"
> > pancaking-floors theory-- a horrendous violation, forbidden by
> > principles of Physics. (What is going on for the FEMA/NIST researchers
> > to make such striking errors/omissions?)
> >
> >
> > 5. I conducted simple experiments on the "pancaking" theory, by
> > dropping cement blocks from approximately 12 feet onto other cement
> > blocks. (The floors in the WTC buildings were about 12 feet apart.) We
> > are supposed to believe, from the pancaking theory, that a concrete
> > floor dropping 12 feet onto another concrete floor will result in
> > PULVERIZED concrete observed during the Towers' collapses! Nonsense! My
> >
> >
> >
> > own experiments, and I welcome you to try this yourself, is that only
> > chips/large chunks of cement flaked off the blocks -- no mass
> > pulverization to approx. 100-micron powder as observed. Explosives,
> > however, can indeed convert concrete to dust --mostly, along
> > with some large chunks-- as observed in the destruction of the Twin
> > Towers on 9-11-01.
> >
> >
> > 6. The observations of molten metal (I did not say molten steel!) in
> > the basements of all three
> > buildings, WTC 1, 2 and 7 is consistent with the use of the extremely
> > high-temperature thermite reaction: iron oxide + aluminum powder -->
> > Al2O3 + molten iron.
> > Falling buildings are not observed to generate melting of large
> > quantities of molten metal -- this requires a concentrated heat source
> > such as explosives. Even the government reports admit that the fires
> > were insufficient to melt steel beams (they argue for heating and
> > warping then failure of these beams) -- but these reports do not
> > mention the observed molten metal in the basements of WTC1, 2 and 7.
> > Again we have a glaring omission of critical data in the FEMA, NIST and
> >
> >
> >
> > 9-11 Commission reports.
> >
> >
> > 7. I understand that models of the steel-frame WTC buildings at
> > Underwriters Laboratories subjected to intense fires did NOT collapse.
> > And no steel-frame buildings before or after 9/11/2001 have collapsed
> > due to fire. Thus, the "official" fire-pancaking model fails the
> > scientific test of REPRODUCIBILITY. (Earthquake- caused collapses have
> > occured, but there were no major earthquakes in NYC on that day. And
> > buildings which have collapsed due to earthquakes
> > collapse asymmetrically, as expected -- not like the nearly
> > straight-down collapse of WTC 7 to a small
> > rubble pile!)
> >
> >
> > 8. Explosions -- multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence -- were
> > heard and reported by numerous
> > observers in (and near) the WTC buildings, consistent with explosive
> > demolition. Some of the firemen who reported explosions barely escaped
> > with their lives.
> >
> >
> > Essentially none of these science-based considerations is mentioned in
> > the Popular Mechanics article on this subject, authored by B. Chertoff
> > (a cousin of M. Chertoff who heads the Homeland Security Dept.) (Squibs
> >
> >
> >
> > are mentioned briefly, but the brief PM analysis does not fit the
> > observed facts.)
> >
> >
> > I have performed other analyses regarding the WTC collapses on 9-11-01
> > which may be of interest --let me know if you're interested. The matter
> >
> >
> >
> > is highly interesting to me as a physicist -- and as a citizen
> > of the United States. I conclude that the evidence for pre-positioned
> > explosives in WTC 7 (also in towers 1 and 2) is truly compelling.
> >
> >
> > Steven E. Jones
> > Professor of Physics/BYU
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/715745be79ba...
> >
> >
> >
> > kathleen
> > Nov 22, 6:43 am hide options
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> >
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> > From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@xxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this
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> > Date: 22 Nov 2005 03:43:11 -0800
> > Local: Tues, Nov 22 2005 6:43 am
> > Subject: Re: The Zionist War On Your Freedom Of Speech
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> > Well, what will happen, if the Bush regime does not come clean
> > on who planted the explosives in the WTC (Mossad), is that
> > Jewish people will suffer another round of persecution.
> >
> >
> > Ariel Sharon is scared shitless.
> >
> >
> > The guilty have to be punished, so that the whole of the Jewish
> > Nation (and us) are not held accountable.
> >
> >
> > NO MORE HOLOCAUSTS, If this is not properly handled, in a
> > court of law, it will be disastrous to us all.
> >
> >
> > The hatred and racism has to stop with each one of us.
> >
> >
> > We did the McCarthyism thing. First it was the commies.
> > Now it is the war dissenters.
> > Next it will be the Jews again.
> >
> >
> > Why can't we see the cycle of hatred and intolerance has to stop.
> >
> >
> > And Chuck the Newsgroup leader has no say in the matter.
> >
> >
> > He is largely responsible for the persecution of Lyme victims.
> >
> >
> > Quackwatch. Forschner-stalking....
> >
> >
> > "Want to send them a bogus article?"
> > http://actionlyme.org/
> >
> >
> > - Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/75efb9179e49...
> >
> >
> >
> > The Assassination of Hariri and the MossadAll 24 messages in topic -
> > view as tree
> > kathleen
> > Oct 31, 11:43 am hide options
> >
> >
> > Newsgroups: sci.med.diseases.lyme, misc.health.alternative,
> > talk.politics.medicine, alt.support.breast-implant
> > From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@xxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this
> > author
> > Date: 31 Oct 2005 08:43:52 -0800
> > Local: Mon, Oct 31 2005 11:43 am
> > Subject: The Assassination of Hariri and the Mossad
> > Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show
> > original | Report Abuse
> >
> >
> > Was performed by the Mossad and blamed on the Syrians.
> >
> >
> > Since they're in the way of the Iraqi pipeline to Israel
> > (and just plain in the way because they are Arabs).
> >
> >
> > Kathleen
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/bc91112b6980...
> >
> >
> >
> > Mossad, Lyme Disease, Insurance Medicine, AIG, Marsh and McLennonOnly 1
> >
> > message in topic - view as tree
> > kathleen
> > Nov 6, 9:02 am hide options
> >
> >
> > Newsgroups: sci.med.diseases.lyme
> > From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@xxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this
> > author
> > Date: 6 Nov 2005 06:02:48 -0800
> > Local: Sun, Nov 6 2005 9:02 am
> > Subject: Mossad, Lyme Disease, Insurance Medicine, AIG, Marsh and
> > McLennon
> > Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show
> > original | Report Abuse
> >
> >
> > The indicted:
> >
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Greenberg
> >
> >
> > American International Group (an ALDF sponsor)
> >
> >
> > Marsh and McLennon
> >
> >
> > :)))
> >
> >
> > Bad boys, bad boys, watchya gonna do? Whatchya gonna do when they come
> >
> >
> >
> > for you...
> >
> >
> > Kathleen
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/09cd6bf79231...
> >
> >
> >
> > kathleen
> > Nov 5, 11:54 am hide options
> >
> >
> > Newsgroups: sci.med.diseases.lyme
> > From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@xxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this
> > author
> > Date: 5 Nov 2005 08:54:03 -0800
> > Local: Sat, Nov 5 2005 11:54 am
> > Subject: Mossad- The whole world is their fool.
> > Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show
> > original | Report Abuse
> >
> >
> > Following his World Bank presidential nomination Wolfowitz was
> > reported[11] to be in a relationship with World Bank senior gender
> > coordinator Shaha Riza an Arab feminist who according to The Times
> > "shares Wolfowitz's passion for spreading democracy in the Arab
> > world" and "is said to have reinforced his determination to remove
> > Saddam Hussein's oppressive regime." [12]
> >
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz
> >
> >
> > PsyOps
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/8836bf2bac33...
> >
> >
> >
> > kathleen
> > Nov 6, 8:52 am hide options
> >
> >
> > Newsgroups: sci.med.diseases.lyme
> > From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@xxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this
> > author
> > Date: 6 Nov 2005 05:52:18 -0800
> > Local: Sun, Nov 6 2005 8:52 am
> > Subject: USA fooled by the Mossad once again
> > Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show
> > original | Report Abuse
> >
> >
> > "In a sworn testimony at the Lockerbie trials and recounted in his book
> >
> >
> >
> > "The Other Side of Deception" , Colonel Victor Ostrovsky, a former
> > Mossad operative, asserted that the "intercepts" that led to the US
> > bombing of Libya had in fact been broadcast covertly by the Mossad from
> >
> >
> >
> > Tripoli."
> >
> >
> > =====
> >
> >
> > The Security Council's new line of work: Is Mehlis the right man?
> > Friday 04 November 2005
> >
> >
> > With the adoption of Security Council resolution 1636, the fate of
> > Syria is now firmly in the hands of one man: Detlev Mehlis, the Head of
> >
> >
> >
> > the UN Commission investigating the assassination of former Lebanese
> > Prime Minister, Rafiq Hariri. The new resolution gives the German judge
> >
> >
> >
> > sweeping powers and requests the Commission to report back to the
> > Council on the progress of the inquiry by 15 December 2005, including
> > on the degree of cooperation from the Syrian authorities, or anytime
> > before that date "if the Commission deems that such cooperation does
> > not meet the requirements of [the] resolution, so that the council, if
> > necessary, could consider further action."
> > While bringing to justice the authors of Hariri's assassination is of
> > the utmost importance, one cannot but worry that the Council is now
> > fully engaged in a de facto criminal investigation --without the due
> > process afforded to suspects and defendants alike by the judicial
> > system of well-thinking democracies. With the adoption of resolution
> > 1636 under Chapter 7 of the UN Charter, the stakes are dangerously
> > high, particularly in light of President Bush's statement that all
> > options remain on the table. In this regard, the last minute
> > "concession" -dropping a specific reference to Article 41 of the
> > Charter which relates to "measures not involving the use of force"
> > to give effect to Council decisions-- exacted by the Russian Minister
> > of Foreign Affairs, Sergey Lavrov, resembles more a gift to the White
> > House than a real concession: it leaves the Council the option of
> > invoking in its next resolution not only Article 41 -but also article
> > 42 governing the use of military force. How the representative of the
> > only Arab country on the Council, the eminent international jurist and
> > Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mohamed Bedjaoui, could cast a positive
> > vote remains equally puzzling.
> > With the adoption of 1636, the Mehlis investigatory process resembles
> > more and more the saga of UNSCOM/UNMOVIC tasked to unearth weapons of
> > mass destruction that did not exist in Iraq. Mehlis today like Blix
> > yesterday had both the mighty responsibility of provoking or averting a
> >
> >
> >
> > head-on confrontation with their interlocutors in Damascus and Baghdad,
> >
> >
> >
> > respectively, and potentially provoking war. The comparison, however,
> > stops here. For it is evident that the judge in the case of Syria's
> > alleged involvement in the assassination plot of Hariri -the Security
> > Council- has already directed the Jury -the Mehlis Commission- on
> > what the outcome of the verdict should be. The comparison also stops
> > here because Detlev Mehlis is no Hans Blix, the man who managed to
> > redress the impartiality and professionalism of UNMOVIC after the
> > dismal record of his predecessor, the Australian Richard Butler.
> > When so much power is entrusted to one individual, it is worth
> > considering their record. As Director-General of the International
> > Atomic Energy Agency for 15 years, Blix had well-established
> > credentials. And so has Mehlis. When Secretary General Annan appointed
> > the German judge, the cursory UN press release indicated that the
> > 55-year old Mehlis had "25 years of prosecutorial experience and has
> > led numerous investigations into serious, complex transnational
> > crimes".
> > One such crime was the 6 April 1986 bombing of the 'La Belle'
> > discotheque in then West Berlin that killed two US military servicemen
> > and a Turkish woman. Nine days later, at 2 a.m., the US launched
> > bombing raids on Libya that killed among others the daughter of the
> > Libyan leader and injured two of his sons. "Operation El Dorado
> > Canyon" was launched, it was claimed, based on telecommunication
> > intercepts between Libyan intelligence officials. On 25 August 1998,
> > however, Germany's public television network ZDF, reported that
> > several prime suspects of the La Belle bombing -Arabs working for
> > Western and Israeli intelligence-- were being protected from
> > prosecution by Western Intelligence. And Mehlis knew this. In a sworn
> > testimony at the Lockerbie trials and recounted in his book "The
> > Other Side of Deception" , Colonel Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad
> > operative, asserted that the "intercepts" that led to the US
> > bombing of Libya had in fact been broadcast covertly by the Mossad from
> >
> >
> >
> > Tripoli.
> > Before he submits his second report to the Security Council, it might
> > be worthwhile for the UN to look into Mehlis' credentials -or to
> > reconsider them. Annan should also realize that when it comes to the
> > Middle East, conspiracy theories are not the mere product of fertile
> > imaginations, but the consequence of intricate plots of potent
> > intelligence services. After all, wasn't Mossad agent Eli Cohen in
> > the 1960's a "close friend" of Syrian President Amin al-Hafez who
> > was about to appoint him Minister of Defense?
> > Before starting a new line of business, the United Nations whose
> > reputation has lately been seriously dented should realise that the
> > investigation into an assassination by a political organ is neither a
> > good idea, nor does it set a good example.
> > http://aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=2&id=2510
> >
> >
> > (The next one is kathLOON posting as "chuckpmcsweegan @ Yahoo.com look
> > at the formatting) (it is also VERY likely that she IS CALC!!!)
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/7ba8b898fc7a...
> >
> >
> >
> > Chuck
> > Aug 5, 4:47 am hide options
> >
> >
> > Newsgroups: sci.med.diseases.lyme,
> > alt.support.child-protective-services, misc.health.alternative
> > From: "Chuck" <chuckpmcswee...@xxxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this
> > author
> > Date: 5 Aug 2005 02:47:51 -0700
> > Local: Fri, Aug 5 2005 4:47 am
> > Subject: Plum Island, Zuckerman, the ALDF, Yale and the Mossad
> > Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original
> > | Report Abuse
> >
> >
> > Responses to the survey.
> >
> >
> > What we heard, and in combination with what Ed McSweegan
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/26/eveningnews/main560528.shtml
> > posted to the Lyme newsgroup recently, has led us to the answers
> > we were looking for as regards Plum Island and Gulf War
> > Illness, in addition to Lyme. [GWI is from a combination of toxins;
> > from exploding weapons underground (which I saw myself on
> > CNN), and antidotes to nerve agents administered prophylactically,
> > as well as mycoplasma exposure.]
> >
> >
> > Mortimer Zuckerman was at the ALDF GALA in NYC at the Pierre
> > Hotel. He got back into his limo when he sawa out protest and
> > drove away. Zuckerman was in line for an ambassadorship to Israel.
> >
> >
> > Would anyone like to know why we did not finish off Saddam in 1991?
> >
> >
> > Because of the bioweapons we sold Iraq from Plum Island.
> >
> >
> > Mycoplasmas, at least.
> >
> >
> > UNSCOM was looking for "tick nursery equipment" in Iraq in
> > the 1990s. This we read online, posted to one of the e-groups
> > which was on the web on a formal (and not any kind of a "conspiracy")
> > web page.
> >
> >
> > How would Yale, the ALDF, and Zuckerman, et al know about
> > these things, and what benefit would Israel gain in knowing what
> > bioweapons Iraq has?
> >
> >
> > Israel feels they are *entitled* to know.
> >
> >
> > No doubt Israel has them, too.
> >
> >
> > OspA is a lipoprotein of mycoplasmal origin. Numerous
> > animal diseases, including lameness (Lyme), pneumonia, and the
> > inability to produce milk, are caused by mycoplasmas and are "studied"
> > on Plum Island.
> >
> >
> > So, the focus is on Yale and the ALDF. They obviously know all about
> > what we sold/gave to whom, since Yale is also involved in Plum Island
> > "research."
> >
> >
> > Lyme was a Plum Island accidental release and LymeRIX
> > was either placebo vaccine, or an attempt to create antibodies
> > to mycoplasmal lipoproteins as well...
> >
> >
> > The reason the "bad guys" don't want us to have antibiotics is because
> > they think/suppose antibiotics will kill off other infections, which
> > allows
> > the mycoplasmal infections to expand.
> >
> >
> > But mycoplasmal infections suppress the immune system.
> > Just like LymeRIX does.
> > LymeRIX failed in the same way other mycoplasmal lipoproteins 1) failed
> >
> >
> >
> > as
> > vaccines and 2) produced delayed-typed hypersensitivity responses.
> >
> >
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&;...
> >
> >
> >
> > Mycoplasmas also infect the brain causing a spongiform encephalopathy.
> >
> >
> > Ed McSweegan said "Don't mess with Yale and the federal government."
> >
> >
> > That was our biggest clue, as usual.
> >
> >
> > If anyone wants to confirm any of this, 1) it is factual that they
> > study mycoplasma
> > on Plum Island because one of the Lyme activists confronted the former
> > Plum
> > Island Director on this. At first the Director denied it, but then
> > when shown the
> > evidence, she admitted that they did. Now it is too obvious for words.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2) Study Tully JG.
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&te...
> >
> >
> >
> > mycoplasmal and spiroplasmal infections are also carried in ticks.
> >
> >
> > Remember Klempner talking about leprosy (a mycoplasmal infection) ?
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&;...
> >
> >
> >
> > "Molecular mechanisms of MHC linked susceptibility in leprosy: towards
> > the development of synthetic vaccines."
> > "....76% of the individuals were able to eliminate the bacilli
> > (p=0.03). DRB1*1501 DQA1*0102-DQB1*0602 (DQ1 subtype) was significantly
> >
> >
> >
> > increased in the patients, indicating its participation in
> > susceptibility."
> >
> >
> > There are (found in leprosy) the same HLA types of immune incompetence
> > found in
> > people who have chronic neurologic Lyme- which presents as Multiple
> > Sclerosis, and the reason for this immune incompetence is what I told
> > everyone 2 years ago: conformational differences of the antigen
> > presenting
> > molecule and antigen- binding dynamics.
> >
> >
> > DRB1*1501 and DQB1*0602
> >
> >
> > Klempner found the latter in significant portion of the "seronegative"
> > Lyme patients.
> > NINDS Roland Martin found the former in the MS-presenting borreliosis
> > patients.
> > Then we recruited Martin from Germany. Just like we recruited Willy
> > Burgdorfer from
> > Switzerland. We recruited the best scientists in their fields.
> >
> >
> > Remember Phil Baker banned us from the September 2001 NIH conference on
> >
> >
> >
> > Lyme?
> >
> >
> > Here is that report, 3 years later, but I don't know if they revealed
> > that haplotype
> > finding yet:
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&;...
> >
> >
> >
> > We're as sick as we *say* we are. *We're* just not allowed to know
> > about it, whereas Zuckerman is ??? And all of his biotech- investing
> > buddies associated with Yale and the ALDF ??? We're not allowed to
> > know
> > WHY we shouldn't have antibtiotics?
> >
> >
> > Because the real reason is that we have mycoplasmal infections from
> > ticks
> > which we are not supposed to know about, because if the origin is
> > traced
> > we could find markers of Plum Island handiwork? And is Zuckerman
> > and Kaiser, etc, entitled to this Yale/Plum Island insider information
> > and
> > not us?
> >
> >
> > Either a person has a hypersensitivity response to lipoproteins, or an
> > inadequate
> > immune response, accounting for the 2 types of Lyme Steere discussed in
> >
> >
> >
> > 1991:
> > Lyme arthritis (seropositive Lyme - due to the hyper-immune response),
> > or Multiple Sclerosis (seronegative Lyme - due to inadequate immune
> > response).
> >
> >
> > Thanks again for participating, but most of all, Thank Ed McSweegan
> > for harassing us, since that was incredibly stupid of him. OF COURSE
> > we're going to try to find out why we've been dealt this obvious
> > bullshit
> > on Lyme.
> >
> >
> > If they were smart, they would have let us be treated for Lyme.
> >
> >
> > Instead, we learned about Plum Island and the *real* reason we did
> > not invade Iraq all the way to Bagdad in 1991, ... until the UN cleaned
> >
> >
> >
> > up
> > our mess.
> >
> >
> > And now we know Zuckerman knows too much. He would have
> > learned it from Yale and the ALDF.
> >
> >
> > Is Zuckerman with the Mossad? Is Kristol? Is Wolfowitz?
> >
> >
> > Some say the Mossad killed President Jack Kennedy, because
> > Kennedy did not want Israel to become a nuclear power.
> >
> >
> > How about we make the Arab terrorists a peace offering and give
> > them Zuckerman and Wolfowitz? And how about we also throw in Ed
> > McSweegan as a bonus??
> >
> >
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&;...
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tick-borne diseases of sheep and goats and their related vectors in
> > Iran."
> > Hashemi-Fesharki R.
> > Department of Protozoology, Razi State Vaccine and Serum Research
> > Institute, Tehran, Iran.
> >
> >
> > and, 1983, Yale:
> >
> >
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&;...
> >
> >
> >
> > Yale J Biol Med. 1983 Sep-Dec;56(5-6):799-813. Related Articles, Links
> >
> >
> >
> > "The Emmy Klieneberger-Nobel Award lecture. Reflections on recovery
> >
> >
> >
> > of some fastidious mollicutes with implications of the changing host
> > patterns of these organisms."
> >
> >
> > Don't forget, rarely is any research published by Plum Island.
> >
> >
> > Your's,
> > AN AMERICAN PATRIOT.
> >
> >
> > ======
> >
> >
> > Kathleen,
> > exactly, or approximately, WHAT do you think the
> > Mad Scientists at Plum DID to that ancient organism?
> > HOW did they tweak it?
> > Give it more bite?
> > More neurotoxin-producing capability?
> > More potent neurotoxin?
> > Make it antibiotic-resistant?
> > Make it antibiotic-proof?
> > Boost its reproductive ability?
> > etc.
> > WHAT?!
> > Inquiring Spirochete-Saturated Minds Want To Know.
> >
> >
> > Chuck (The Good Chuck, not the EVIL Chuck)
> >
> >
> > "Cytyzens Unyted Agaynst Lyme Cryme"
> >
> >
> > - Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> >
> >
> >
> > - Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> > Original Message-----
> > From: Kathleen <janmusin...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Aug 3, 2005 10:03 AM
> > To: Kathleen <janmusin...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, lett...@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
> >
> > ami.k...@xxxxxxxx, Lett...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > fred.volk...@xxxxxxxx,
> > tommau...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, gary_worm...@xxxxxxxx,
> > great...@xxxxxxxxx, r...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > custs...@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> > m_aguero-rosenf...@xxxxxxxx, m...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > pub...@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> > SpinL...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, lett...@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> > krug...@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> > tb-petiti...@xxxxxxxxx, pub...@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> > scil...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > fbin...@xxxxxxx, gerard.ba...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, l...@xxxxxxx,
> > press...@xxxxxxxxxxx, n...@xxxxxxxxxx, ige...@xxxxxxxxxx,
> > frie...@xxxxxxx, hurley...@xxxxxxx
> > Cc: jgerberd...@xxxxxxx, p...@xxxxxxx, l...@xxxxxxx,
> > thomas.car...@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Lyme scam survey
> >
> >
> > This is a serious survey, even though it doesn't sound like it.
> > Please respond.
> > Thanks,
> > Kathleen
> >
> >
> > ========================
> >
> >
> > Do you think borreliosis was a "delberate release?"
> >
> >
> > Do you think Lyme was a Plum Island accident?
> >
> >
> > What do you think is the reason the CDC is protecting
> > and promoting this Lyme disease fraud, and have promoted
> > Mark Klempner and Alan Barbour, by giving them bioweapons
> > labs to manage?
> >
> >
> > Why hasn't McSweegan been arrested for revealing
> > government secrets regarding what are bioweapons
> > and nerve agents?
> >
> >
> > Do you think it is treason for Yale and the Lyme
> > criminals to be giving away government secrets
> > as regards borreliosis to foreign nations like
> > the British firm SmithKline, and discussing data
> > with German scientists, like Steere did when he
> > set up the EUCALB to be the European counterpart
> > of the false "front" non-profit the ALDF.com?
> >
> >
> > Do you think it is treason for US companies to
> > be spinning diseases for profit? Like Kaiser, the
> > Yale Corporation, (and New York Medical College)
> > and CastleConnolly.com?
> >
> >
> > Especially if the profit ends up in shell companies
> > in the US east coast islands like Bermuda and
> > the Virgin Islands or invested in, oh, say
> > Equatorial Guinea who have just discovered
> > wealth in natural resources?
> >
> >
> > Do you think it made sense to invest in the
> > development of a vaccine for Lyme, when they
> > knew all along there could be no vaccine for
> > a relapsing borreliosis-- which is also the
> > reason why there is not real test for borreliosis
> > other than antibodies for genus specific flagellin?
> >
> >
> > If Edward McSweegan lived in Old Lyme CT, next
> > door to a Blue Cross executive, what could he
> > have advised Blue Cross about Lyme? Which, one
> > would think, would be the primary topic of
> > neighborly conversation.
> >
> >
> > Why
> >
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> > ( all messages by kathLOON posting as chuckpmcsweegan @ yahoo.com it
> > is OBVIOUSLY her look at the kathLOON formatting):
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?enc_author=0IBJRxkAAABYVS5ZA0Yd4SGSXm....
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