Re: Dr Jones IS a living SAINT!!!!
- From: "Mockingbird" <mockingbirdbrain@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 2 Dec 2005 09:18:29 -0800
dali wrote:
> Mockingbird wrote:
> > dali wrote:
> > > pmerv@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > we aren't supposed to do ads, we're nonprofit
> > > > I don't believe in ICHT or Rife or CS. Maybe you and Barney and dali
> > > > can get together and do your own rag with that stuff in it.
> > > >
> > > > ps this really isn't about Dr. Jones the Saint any more
> > > >
> > > > Mockingbird wrote:
> > > > > dali wrote:
> > > > > > Mockingbird wrote:
> > > > > > > Mockingbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > CaliforniaLyme wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Phyllis does a great job with the Lyme Times and it is a wonderful
> > > > > > > > > publication!!! WHo could afford to do it for free>? Not me!!! It is a
> > > > > > > > > great article!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can you read?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I said: offer it on the internet for FREE.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyone who wants a printed copy can pay UNLESS advertising can pay for
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See here is a plan.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Put the Lyme Times content on the internet. Many people will have
> > > > > > > IMMEDIATE access and if they want can print it out. Others may still
> > > > > > > want to buy copies as printed by Phyllis and CALDA and for those she
> > > > > > > could charge and recoup her costs. On the other hand, she could just
> > > > > > > sell ads and get sponsors and give it away if she can recoup the costs
> > > > > > > that way (for example, I bet that Igenex who she regularly shills for,
> > > > > > > could afford to publish ten times the number of copies she currently
> > > > > > > prints, pay for mailings, and even pay for better publishing software.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > After all his revenues were, what, a quarter of a BILLION dollars over
> > > > > > > the last ten years?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How about some colloidal silver ads. oh yea, she'd be rolling in it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey and she can help Bryan skyking rosner sell his self published book
> > > > > for $40 a pop along with some RIFE machines too!
> > > > >
> > > > > See Phyllis, we're all trying to help come up with some ideas for ads
> > > > > you can sell!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey sooner or later Nick Bachnysky or Dr Shantha will get out of jail
> > > > > and they can really afford to pay for some ads for ICHT too!
> > >
> > > Well Dr. William Burgdorfer, Ph.D. believes in it and I'm certain he is
> > > smarter than both of you two combined.
> >
> > I "believe in it" as in CS exists.
> >
> > I don't believe that it is safe or effective.
> >
> > The fact that Burgdorfer, an excellent microbiologist, at one time
> > advocated a treatment, doesn't make it a good treatment, doesn't make
> > him a pharmacologist etc.
> >
> > But, hey, as we've all said, YOU should feel free to snort it, mainline
> > it, and do whatever YOU want to with it.
> >
> > WHY the need to prosletyze about it to others constantly is what no of
> > us can figure out.
>
> because antibiotics no longer work. got any better ideas?
>
> Do this:
> We can all agree that PUBMED is a reputable source, right?
FROM PUBMED:
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Ear Clinic, Bamalete Lutheran Hospital, Ramotswa, Botswana.
pvhass...@xxxxxxxxx
OBJECTIVE: Colloidal silver preparations are marketed on the internet
as omnipotent antimicrobial agents, but scientific support for these
claims is lacking. This study reports the results of in vitro tests of
colloidal silver's antimicrobial activity against several pathogenic or
non-pathogenic microorganisms. METHOD: Three samples of colloidal
silver were tested: one available commercially on the internet (silver
concentration of 22 ppm) and two samples (concentrations of 403 and 413
ppm) which were prepared in our laboratory using standard chemical
methods. RESULTS: In an agar-well diffusion assay none of the three
colloidal silver solutions had any effect on the growth of the test
organisms. All tested bacterial strains were sensitive to
ciprofloxacin. Colloidal silver 22 ppm showed no bactericidal activity
in phenol coefficient tests. CONCLUSION: As the tested colloidal silver
solutions did not show any antimicrobial effect in vitro on the
microorganisms, claims of colloidal silver's antimicrobial potency are
misleading and there is no place for it as an antiseptic.
Publication Types:
Evaluation Studies
PMID: 15114827 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of
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Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, University of Western
Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada.
The authors report a case of a 71-year-old man who developed myoclonic
status epilepticus and coma after daily ingestion of colloidal silver
for 4 months resulting in high levels of silver in plasma,
erythrocytes, and CSF. Despite plasmapheresis, he remained in a
persistent vegetative state until his death 5.5 months later. Silver
products can cause irreversible neurologic toxicity associated with
poor outcome.
Publication Types:
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PMID: 15111684 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Int J Dermatol. 2003 Jul;42(7):549. Related Articles, Links
Argyria associated with colloidal silver supplementation.
McKenna JK, Hull CM, Zone JJ.
Department of Dermatology, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT
84132, USA.
A 65-year-old male presented for skin examination and was incidentally
noted to have discoloration of the fingernails. These findings were
completely asymptomatic. The patient had been taking colloidal silver
supplementation (Silverzone 140 ppm silver Gifts of Nature, St. George,
UT, USA) for 2 years as therapy for diabetes. He first noticed the
onset of nail discoloration 1 year ago. His past medical history
included type II diabetes and hypertension. His current medications
were metformin, glyburide, and benazepril. Physical examination
revealed slate-gray discoloration involving the lunulae of the
fingernails (Fig. 1). The skin, mucous membranes, and sclerae were
unaffected.
Publication Types:
Case Reports
PMID: 12839605 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Clin Exp Dermatol. 2003 May;28(3):254-6. Related Articles, Links
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protein.
White JM, Powell AM, Brady K, Russell-Jones R.
Department of Dermatology, Ealing Hospital, London, UK.
jonathanmlwh...@xxxxxxxxxxx
Argyria is a rare cause of cutaneous discolouration caused by silver
deposition. We report a case of dramatic and diffuse argyria secondary
to ingestion of colloidal silver protein over a 1-year period. Stained
electron microscopy with spectral analysis was used to confirm the
clinical diagnosis. Silver-protein complexes are deposited in the skin
and reduced to inert silver salts by sunlight in a process similar to
that harnessed in photography. Our patient had obtained the silver for
consumption via mail order. It had been advertised as a cure for a
variety of diseases. Colloidal silver protein is commercially available
as a 'food supplement', hence circumventing the strict controls placed
on medicines.
Publication Types:
Case Reports
PMID: 12780705 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
J Wound Care. 2003 Mar;12(3):120. Related Articles, Links
Controversies over colloidal silver.
Lansdown AB.
Publication Types:
Letter
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cutis. 2000 Nov;66(5):373-4. Related Articles, Links
Argyria following the use of dietary supplements containing colloidal
silver protein.
Gulbranson SH, Hud JA, Hansen RC.
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center, Phoenix, Arizona 85006, USA.
The onset of argyria following the use of dietary supplements
containing colloidal silver protein is presented. The patient was using
a silver-containing product for cold and allergy prophylaxis. We review
the past and present medicinal roles of silver and include a
differential diagnosis for argyria. The hyperpigmentation of argyria is
usually permanent, and it follows a sun-exposed distribution. This case
report highlights the potential for toxicity following the use of
dietary supplements and demonstrates the importance of physician
inquiry regarding alternative medicines. Finally, we examine the
limited role of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in regulating
alternative medicines marketed as dietary supplements.
Publication Types:
Case Reports
PMID: 11107524 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fed Regist. 1999 Aug 17;64(158):44653-8. Related Articles, Links
Over-the-counter drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients
or silver salts. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Public
Health Service (PHS), Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Final rule.
[No authors listed]
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is issuing a final rule
establishing that all over-the-counter (OTC) drug products containing
colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for internal or external
use are not generally recognized as safe and effective and are
misbranded. FDA is issuing this final rule because many OTC drug
products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts are
being marketed for numerous serious disease conditions and FDA is not
aware of any substantial scientific evidence that supports the use of
OTC colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for these disease
conditions.
PMID: 10558603 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
J Toxicol Clin Toxicol. 1996;34(1):119-26. Related Articles, Links
Silver products for medical indications: risk-benefit assessment.
Fung MC, Bowen DL.
Center of Drug Evaluation and Research, Food and Drug Administration,
Rockville, Maryland, USA.
BACKGROUND: Legitimate medicinal use of silver-containing products has
dramatically diminished over the last several decades. Recently,
however, some manufacturers have begun to enthusiastically promote oral
colloidal silver proteins as mineral supplements and for prevention and
treatment of many diseases. Indiscriminate use of silver products can
lead to toxicity such as argyria. OBJECTIVE: To assist health care
professionals in a risk versus benefit assessment of over-the-counter
silver-containing products, we herein examine the following issues:
historical uses, chemistry, pharmacology, clinical toxicology, case
reports of adverse events in the literature, and the recent promotion
of over-the-counter silver products. Other sources of silver exposure
(including environmental and dietary) and EPA exposure standards are
discussed. A list of currently available silver products is provided
for easy reference and screening. CONCLUSIONS: We emphasize the lack of
established effectiveness and potential toxicity of these products.
Publication Types:
Review
Review, Tutorial
PMID: 8632503 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JAMA. 1995 Oct 18;274(15):1196-7. Related Articles, Links
Colloidal silver proteins marketed as health supplements.
Fung MC, Weintraub M, Bowen DL.
Publication Types:
Letter
PMID: 7563503 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
J Wound Care. 2004 Apr;13(4):154-5. Related Articles, Links
Colloidal silver as an antimicrobial agent: fact or fiction?
van Hasselt P, Gashe BA, Ahmad J.
Ear Clinic, Bamalete Lutheran Hospital, Ramotswa, Botswana.
pvhass...@xxxxxxxxx
OBJECTIVE: Colloidal silver preparations are marketed on the internet
as omnipotent antimicrobial agents, but scientific support for these
claims is lacking. This study reports the results of in vitro tests
of colloidal silver's antimicrobial activity against several
pathogenic
or non-pathogenic microorganisms. METHOD: Three samples of colloidal
silver were tested: one available commercially on the internet
(silver concentration of 22 ppm) and two samples (concentrations of
403 and
413 ppm) which were prepared in our laboratory using standard chemical
methods. RESULTS: In an agar-well diffusion assay none of the three
colloidal silver solutions had any effect on the growth of the test
organisms. All tested bacterial strains were sensitive to
ciprofloxacin. Colloidal silver 22 ppm showed no bactericidal
activity in phenol coefficient tests. CONCLUSION: As the tested
colloidal
silver solutions did not show any antimicrobial effect in vitro on the
microorganisms, claims of colloidal silver's antimicrobial potency
are misleading and there is no place for it as an antiseptic.
Publication Types:
Evaluation Studies
PMID: 15114827 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Neurology. 2004 Apr 27;62(8):1408-10. Related Articles, Links
Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of
colloidal silver.
Mirsattari SM, Hammond RR, Sharpe MD, Leung FY, Young GB.
Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, University of Western
Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada.
The authors report a case of a 71-year-old man who developed
myoclonic status epilepticus and coma after daily ingestion of
colloidal silver
for 4 months resulting in high levels of silver in plasma,
erythrocytes, and CSF. Despite plasmapheresis, he remained in a
persistent vegetative state until his death 5.5 months later. Silver
products can cause irreversible neurologic toxicity associated with
poor outcome.
Publication Types:
Case Reports
PMID: 15111684 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Int J Dermatol. 2003 Jul;42(7):549. Related Articles, Links
Argyria associated with colloidal silver supplementation.
McKenna JK, Hull CM, Zone JJ.
Department of Dermatology, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT
84132, USA.
A 65-year-old male presented for skin examination and was
incidentally noted to have discoloration of the fingernails. These
findings were
completely asymptomatic. The patient had been taking colloidal silver
supplementation (Silverzone 140 ppm silver Gifts of Nature, St.
George, UT, USA) for 2 years as therapy for diabetes. He first noticed
the
onset of nail discoloration 1 year ago. His past medical history
included type II diabetes and hypertension. His current medications
were metformin, glyburide, and benazepril. Physical examination
revealed slate-gray discoloration involving the lunulae of the
fingernails (Fig. 1). The skin, mucous membranes, and sclerae were
unaffected.
> Publication Types:
Case Reports
PMID: 12839605 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clin Exp Dermatol. 2003 May;28(3):254-6. Related Articles, Links
Severe generalized argyria secondary to ingestion of colloidal silver
protein.
White JM, Powell AM, Brady K, Russell-Jones R.
Department of Dermatology, Ealing Hospital, London, UK.
jonathanmlwh...@xxxxxxxxxxx
Argyria is a rare cause of cutaneous discolouration caused by silver
deposition. We report a case of dramatic and diffuse argyria
secondary to ingestion of colloidal silver protein over a 1-year
period.
Stained electron microscopy with spectral analysis was used to confirm
the
clinical diagnosis. Silver-protein complexes are deposited in the
skin and reduced to inert silver salts by sunlight in a process
similar to
that harnessed in photography. Our patient had obtained the silver
for consumption via mail order. It had been advertised as a cure for a
variety of diseases. Colloidal silver protein is commercially
available as a 'food supplement', hence circumventing the strict
controls
placed on medicines.
Publication Types:
Case Reports
PMID: 12780705 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
J Wound Care. 2003 Mar;12(3):120. Related Articles, Links
Controversies over colloidal silver.
Lansdown AB.
Publication Types:
Letter
PMID: 12677875 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cutis. 2000 Nov;66(5):373-4. Related Articles, Links
Argyria following the use of dietary supplements containing colloidal
silver protein.
Gulbranson SH, Hud JA, Hansen RC.
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center, Phoenix, Arizona 85006, USA.
The onset of argyria following the use of dietary supplements
containing colloidal silver protein is presented. The patient was
using a silver-containing product for cold and allergy prophylaxis. We
review the past and present medicinal roles of silver and include a
differential diagnosis for argyria. The hyperpigmentation of argyria
is usually permanent, and it follows a sun-exposed distribution. This
case report highlights the potential for toxicity following the use of
dietary supplements and demonstrates the importance of physician
inquiry regarding alternative medicines. Finally, we examine the
limited role of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in regulating
alternative medicines marketed as dietary supplements.
Publication Types:
Case Reports
PMID: 11107524 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fed Regist. 1999 Aug 17;64(158):44653-8. Related Articles, Links
Over-the-counter drug products containing colloidal silver
ingredients or silver salts. Department of Health and Human Services
(HHS),
Public Health Service (PHS), Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Final
rule.
[No authors listed]
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is issuing a final rule
establishing that all over-the-counter (OTC) drug products containing
colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for internal or external
use are not generally recognized as safe and effective and are
misbranded. FDA is issuing this final rule because many OTC drug
products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts are
being marketed for numerous serious disease conditions and FDA is not
aware of any substantial scientific evidence that supports the use of
OTC colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for these disease
conditions.
PMID: 10558603 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
J Toxicol Clin Toxicol. 1996;34(1):119-26. Related Articles, Links
Silver products for medical indications: risk-benefit assessment.
Fung MC, Bowen DL.
Center of Drug Evaluation and Research, Food and Drug Administration,
Rockville, Maryland, USA.
BACKGROUND: Legitimate medicinal use of silver-containing products
has dramatically diminished over the last several decades. Recently,
however, some manufacturers have begun to enthusiastically promote
oral colloidal silver proteins as mineral supplements and for
prevention
and treatment of many diseases. Indiscriminate use of silver products
can
lead to toxicity such as argyria. OBJECTIVE: To assist health care
professionals in a risk versus benefit assessment of over-the-counter
silver-containing products, we herein examine the following issues:
historical uses, chemistry, pharmacology, clinical toxicology, case
reports of adverse events in the literature, and the recent promotion
of over-the-counter silver products. Other sources of silver exposure
(including environmental and dietary) and EPA exposure standards are
discussed. A list of currently available silver products is provided
for easy reference and screening. CONCLUSIONS: We emphasize the lack
of established effectiveness and potential toxicity of these products.
> Publication Types:
> Review
> Review, Tutorial
> PMID: 8632503 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JAMA. 1995 Oct 18;274(15):1196-7. Related Articles, Links
Colloidal silver proteins marketed as health supplements.
Fung MC, Weintraub M, Bowen DL.
Publication Types:
Letter
PMID: 7563503 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=pubmed
>
> I would suggest that she become silver literate if she wants to visit
> sci.med.lyme.
> If you knock ionic siver you need to back it up. I realy dont think
> thats to much to ask is it? Take your time Phyllis,It's alot of
> reading. Same applies to others on this NG, this fence sitting on this
> important topic needs to end.
>
> for overviews silvermedicine.org is as good as any.
.
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