Re: Dr Jones IS a living SAINT!!!!


dali wrote:
> > > because antibiotics no longer work. got any better ideas?
> >
> >
> > The point I was making, was that IF your Lyme infection is no longer an
> > infection, but has, in fact potentially triggered an "autoimmune"
> > and/or entirely post infectious syndrome, further treatment with anti
> > infectious anti microbials--whether it is antibiotics, colloidal silver
> > (ever try grape seed extract? neem oil?) or whatever, isn't going to
> > help.
> >
> > Some doctors have reported success for fibro symptoms with guafennisen
> > which is now OTC.
> >
> > You may be stuck with symptomatic treatments.
> >
> > For me, the passage of time has been the most effective treatment of
> > all.
> >
> > Chronic fatigue might not be due to active infection. Even if there IS
> > active infection, I think the story--and the dirty little secret of
> > Lymeland is that antimicrobial treatments of any sort, have a limited
> > and diminishing rate of return at some point--so when they're no longer
> > helping--whatever they are, though you may not be cured, that does NOT
> > mean that more is going to help.
> >
> > Unfortunately we might not have better treatments for what lingers, it
> > may be your cross to bear. If so, don't give up hope but until there is
> > something better, bear it with as much dignity and grace as possible.
> >
> > Sorry I don't have a better answer than that. But I am being honest.
> >
>
> No thats fine, and i agree with the dirty little secret. I almost
> didn't bother to read this final thought due to the propaganda spiel
> put forth.but i understand why.
> I assume most was FDA and/or quackwatch material. As I stated read
> PUBMED and make up your own mind. I'm NOT going to post the 365 or so
> articles all claiming the benefits of ionic silver. Just go to the link
> and make up your OWN mind.

dali wrote:
> > > because antibiotics no longer work. got any better ideas?
> >
> >
> > The point I was making, was that IF your Lyme infection is no longer an
> > infection, but has, in fact potentially triggered an "autoimmune"
> > and/or entirely post infectious syndrome, further treatment with anti
> > infectious anti microbials--whether it is antibiotics, colloidal silver
> > (ever try grape seed extract? neem oil?) or whatever, isn't going to
> > help.
> >
> > Some doctors have reported success for fibro symptoms with guafennisen
> > which is now OTC.
> >
> > You may be stuck with symptomatic treatments.
> >
> > For me, the passage of time has been the most effective treatment of
> > all.
> >
> > Chronic fatigue might not be due to active infection. Even if there IS
> > active infection, I think the story--and the dirty little secret of
> > Lymeland is that antimicrobial treatments of any sort, have a limited
> > and diminishing rate of return at some point--so when they're no longer
> > helping--whatever they are, though you may not be cured, that does NOT
> > mean that more is going to help.
> >
> > Unfortunately we might not have better treatments for what lingers, it
> > may be your cross to bear. If so, don't give up hope but until there is
> > something better, bear it with as much dignity and grace as possible.
> >
> > Sorry I don't have a better answer than that. But I am being honest.
> >
>
> No thats fine, and i agree with the dirty little secret. I almost
> didn't bother to read this final thought due to the propaganda spiel
> put forth.but i understand why.
> I assume most was FDA and/or quackwatch material. As I stated read
> PUBMED and make up your own mind. I'm NOT going to post the 365 or so
> articles all claiming the benefits of ionic silver. Just go to the link
> and make up your OWN mind.

Dali, you SAID "pubmed is a credible source"

Please note that one of those posts consisted entirely of pubmed
articles/abstracts about cs and argryia. From PUBMED.

By the way, pubmed is NOT really a "source"--it is a site which
collects abstracts from pretty much every journal out there (with the
exception of ERAITs--where the ILADS pathetic excuse for EBM with no
evidence cited "guidelines" were "published" though paying to have
something printed in a vanity journal really doesn't count--which is
why it ain't on there).

PUBMED is basically the medical journal online equivalent of the
library of congress.

It doesn't really pass on the accuracy of articles.

But since you asked, one of the three posts (or maybe it was four) was
ALL articles/abstracts from Pubmed.

About cs. Cs and argryia. And cs having no efficacy.

Isn't that what you asked for?

I know you don't agree.

Why do we have to keep debating it? Use it if you want. I just resent
being spammed about it and that much of what you post is misleading
(not saying you are deliberartely misleading but silvermedicine.org
does--things out of context and just wrong or meant to mislead--uses
other than oral/internal cited as a basis for those uses which aren't
supported--citations to patents as if that means anything--it doesn't).

We've been through it all before.

Yawn.


>
> >
> > >
> > > Do this:
> > > We can all agree that PUBMED is a reputable source, right?
> > >
> > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=pubmed
> > >
> > > I would suggest that she become silver literate if she wants to visit
> > > sci.med.lyme.
> > > If you knock ionic siver you need to back it up. I realy dont think
> > > thats to much to ask is it? Take your time Phyllis,It's alot of
> > > reading. Same applies to others on this NG, this fence sitting on this
> > > important topic needs to end.
> > >
> > > for overviews silvermedicine.org is as good as any.

>
> >
> > >
> > > Do this:
> > > We can all agree that PUBMED is a reputable source, right?
> > >
> > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=pubmed
> > >
> > > I would suggest that she become silver literate if she wants to visit
> > > sci.med.lyme.
> > > If you knock ionic siver you need to back it up. I realy dont think
> > > thats to much to ask is it? Take your time Phyllis,It's alot of
> > > reading. Same applies to others on this NG, this fence sitting on this
> > > important topic needs to end.
> > >
> > > for overviews silvermedicine.org is as good as any.

.

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