Re: GAUVIN BREAKING THE LAW


kachenjunga wrote:
an internal epitope of flagellin is used in europe for an IgM test,
which basically means early disease.

Not necessarily. Steere said continuing IgM in disease
was a sign of ongoing infection.

So did everyone else, bad guy or good.


the real value of the variable region of flagellin,

There is no "invariable region of flagellin."

The only invariable regions are of the Variabe Major
Surface proteins and the Osps themselves.

We are talking about the difference between flagellins.

Flagellin from Treponemes? Leptospira? Or BORRELIA?

however, in my
opinion is as an indicator of late infection through IgG antibody
assays.

I have no way of knowing that the reason for the steere/dressler
criteria is primarily for vaccine qualification. That could be ONE
reason.


Steere earlier said changing and expanding IgM and IgG are signs of
ongoing infection. That would be consistent with Lyme being
a relapsing fever borreliosis.


Another possible reason is that p41G IgG identifies too many
asymptomatic cases. Why would they care about this? Once again, no way
of knowing, since obviously a lot is going on behind the scenes and
what we get publicly is not scientific truth, but propaganda.

Clearly the steere/dressler criteria are missing many late stage cases,
this is demonstrated by the CDC's own data. Who knows the percentage,
this would be pure speculation. One thing is clear, millions of
americans are carrying latent infections. By adopting the steere
criteria, CDC has embraced an artificial, non-scientific definition of
this very complex and poorly understood disease, a definition heavily
tainted by selection bias.

TRUE.

p41G, or similar flagellar protein
fragments, in combination with other recombinant proteins and/or other
means of testing, including VDRL to rule out syphilis, could likely
result in testing approaching 100% sensitivity and specificity for Bb
exposure.


EXACTLY.


Public health authorities have chosen not to go this route. The current
definition "lyme disease" is clearly not congruent with human Bb
infection. Without a baseline, reliable testing protocol such as the
hypothetical outlined above, it is basically impossible to even begin
to define scientifically the range of clinical manifestations
especially later ones seen with Bb infection. Why would they
consciously choose this path?


The know Lyme disease causes Lupus, MS, ALS, etc.
They don't want Lyme being diagnosed, because of the
hugeness of the epidemic and the cost.



It may be that they feel {or rather felt} that most asymptomatic
infections will never manifest, or "burn out".


No. Vijay Sikand was very worried about latent infections.
At least he said so at the 1998 vaccine meeting, when he was
making the argument for how much we needed the Lyme vaccine:
http://actionlyme.org/LYME_IS_A_PERMANENT_BRAIN_INFECTION.htm

This assumption may have
been made partly based on the observation that Bb had been endemic in a
certain part of the world for a long time, and had caused relatively
little disease. However, Bb in europe is as it is now apparent NOT the
same thing as we have in north america.

It's very close. You could say it is the same. Afzelli appears
to be a quite vicious variety, but we are unsure if these very
sick Lyme patients in Europe don't have serious viral coinfections
since they have more tick borne viruses in Europe.


It may also be that "they" feel that after early infection nothing much
can be done. This, however, is a criminally negligent policy the
adoption of which avoids the development of novel treatments for what
is a significant cause of human suffering.

YES.

It also causes great harm by
subjecting patients to the terrors of the unknown - the psychological
hell of not only a serious and disturbing illness, but also and even
worse the terror of NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND OUT what is wrong, and being
labeled as a hypochondriac or munchauser as a result.


ILLEGAL. CRIMINAL. SLANDEROUS. LIBELOUS.
and in the end, HOMICIDE.


A clear violation of the hippocratic oath. I guess that doesn't really
mean anything to these people - honor and ideals. All of the
individuals associated with this monstrousness should be stripped of
their medical degrees and licenses.


They thought they would never be found out.


The thought processes that go into determining infectious disease
policy do not in any way take into account the suffering which may be
experienced by individuals or their families as a result of the
decisions taken. Rather, they are made at a large-scale population
level which views the individual as a nothing, as the member of a
flock, as less than a dog, actually. And unfortunately it appears that
even this cold, callous means of thinking has been tainted by
non-scientific considerations of the profit which could be gained by
those directly involved in the decision making process should one set
of decisions be made.

Study the mindsets of the bioweaponeers. They do not think of
people in terms of live organisms with cognition. We're bodies.
Datapoints.


Assuming the OspA vaccine was 80% effective in preventing infection,
this does not solve the public health problem. ERROR NUMBER 1. Deer
populations in heavily populated endemic areas should have been
eliminated or reduced to less than 1 deer/ squ. km. If this route had
been chosen in the early 90's, when it was already known that late
stage disease can be difficult to treat and result in neuropsychiatric
disease, we would now be in a situation in which lyme disease was rare
in humans. Oral vaccines for animals are a part of the solution, but
will not solve the problem, and even if they could it will take many
years before an effective oral vaccine is developed.

I would not even argue that OspA was the right vaccine.
It was insane from the get-go.




A comprehensive policy focusing on deer eradication, acaricides,
fencing, and human and oral animal vaccines is what was and is needed
to eliminate lyme disease as a cause of human suffering. Public health
authorities should have embraced this policy, but instead chose to
focus on a vaccine alone, which has resulted in millions of americans
contracting the disease, and an unknown percentage of them will likely
develop encephalopathy as a result of this misguided policy.

There can never be a vaccine for Lyme disease. Getting rid of the
deer is the first and most urgent priority.


The deer cannot be controlled without strong guidance...even
dictates...from the federal government. and it does have this power,
it's just that the dennises and faucis and possibly {?} the oval office
deliberately chose not to wield it, thus dooming millions to suffering.

These people don't give a *** about human life. Bush killed
over 50,000 people in the last 4 years.



A comprehensive policy, genuine in its attempt to control the disease,
would have cut down drastically on the market for lyme testing, and
also the pharmaceutical market for items such as SSRIs,
anti-inflammatories, etc. Draw your own conclusions.

Tony Fauci and David Dennis are the architects of this misguided,
dangerous, indeed criminal policy which has doomed millions of
americans and promises in spite of efforts to the contrary to
destabilize the country. The longer the lies and exploitation continue,
the worse the backlash.


McSweegan was the architect.



The end result, at some point, could be revolutionary. Even though this
issue is not in general discussed publicly at this time, I cannot see a
means by which CDC, NIH, or EIS will survive this crisis in their
current form. Drastic reforms of public health governance and the
medical profession in this country are desperately needed.


That's if we survive the next war with Iran, which is scheduled to
begin this March. I'll guess around the 22nd. Maybe the 17th.

Somewhere around there.

We crossed the rubicon. There's no turning back. Either we take
over the world or lose completely the Russian and Chinese retaliation
this year.

I predict we'll lose.

Kathleen

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