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Posted by TexasChaos (Member # 7465) on 24 April, 2007 11:31 AM :

FYI. This was sent out by the executive director of ILADS. I have no other information.

I am interested in protecting Lyme patients and, given the source, I felt it was important to pass the information along.

Before making any decisions in regards to this or any other practitioner, please do your own research.
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Please make your members and practitioners aware of probable medical fraud in the Lyme Community

A self entitled "health professional", "health consultant" in NJ is giving medical advice and selling devices, supplements and herbs as well as charging a "donation" of $75 for medical advice.

After a seminar of less hours than a single college class, she paid for the permission to use "CNHP" after her name. She also claims to be "ND Candidate" and/or "almost ND" yet cannot/will not provide the schools she attended. The AANP has been duly notified and has NO record of her.

She uses these false assumptions of credentials to post on Lyme websites and advertize her expertise and wares. Lately she entitled herself a specialist of "neurodegenerative diseases". She has encouraged many to ignore their own physician's advice and to adopt hers, of course this includes purchasing her wares. She has misinterpreted diagnoses, treatments, etc ( which is no surprise given her probable lack of education)

When asked for her credentials she gives you a name of an attorney-whose office has told me he does not know her.

The NJ Attorney General Office has opened a case and I await hearing from Monmouth County Authorities.

this person's name is

Sue Massie
DBA Nature's Garden of Health
Fair Haven NJ

[ 24. April 2007, 01:26 PM: Message edited by: TexasChaos ]
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on 24 April, 2007 11:49 AM :

She has since provided the schools she has attended. She is currently taking online courses at Trinity College for her ND which is an unaccredited school. She now has an attorney.

She gives some excellent advice and some poor advice. I can say that as I have dealt with her. She posts mainly on Lyme Strategies and Lyme-Rife site. I think she has a good heart as she had a long road with Lyme,buthas too many clients and tries to diagnose them without seeing them.
Posted by Sue (Member # 5671) on 24 April, 2007 01:08 PM :

All, Please leave this person alone. Many people she counsels cannot afford the likes of Dr K and Dr C. And many times Dr C nd Dr K have not been right either. Please stop this witch hunt and focus on healing !
Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on 24 April, 2007 01:20 PM :

Geez..

For the record, one of the worst experiences I had was with a so-called LLMD "god".

Never, ever again.....

There are good and there are bad.........
Posted by Sue (Member # 5671) on 24 April, 2007 01:25 PM :

Who was the LLMD "god"? dr M ??????
Posted by TexasChaos (Member # 7465) on 24 April, 2007 01:25 PM :

Before you decide to "shoot the messenger", please read again the statement in bold above.

I personally have no experience with this person - I am simply relaying information from an extremely reliable source. I am tired of watching Lymies get screwed and my goal is to watch out for my fellow man. I apologize if this offends anyone, but again, I am simply the messenger.
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on 24 April, 2007 01:28 PM :


quote:Originally posted by randibear:
Geez..

For the record, one of the worst experiences I had was with a so-called LLMD "god".

Never, ever again.....

There are good and there are bad.........

LLMD "god".

Shes neither God Or a lyme literate medical doctor is she?
Posted by CaliforniaLyme (Member # 7136) on 24 April, 2007 04:22 PM :

I know Sue. She is a sincere individual who tends to believe that everything is Lyme and can be treated through Rife-y type sellable/buyable stuff. She is speaking at the LIA conference.
I ALMOST agree with her in believing everythign is Lyme- but not QUITE as much*)!!!

She was paralyzed briefly from the neck down from Lyme for a couple of days or something but not ALS type paralysis and used to get ALSers mad at her because she would talk as if she was paralyzed from ALS which she was not. I don't think she is a science minded individual. But she hung in there with the ALS/Lyme group and watched people die and was supportive with lots of ALSers who had no one else to talk to until the end- and she was honest about the difference in her paralysis when called on it- she was not deliberately being dishonest in any way- just don't think she saw the difference between one kind of paralyisis and another-

She WANTED to go to school very badly to treat Lyme and it sounds like she has gotten herself in trouble being over-enthusiastic.

She is, like MAB was, someone who wanted to help- but has perhaps gone about it the wrong way.

She is very nice and has 6 kids and is/was in terrific shape when I met her- we swam in Lovette Motts pool together during a Lyme thing!
I am very sorry to hear this- very!!!

Best wishes,
Sarah
Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on 24 April, 2007 04:44 PM :

there is a woman in colleyville, texas, who runs a health food store.

don't know much about her but she treats lyme with all kinds of gadgets, supplements, etc.

she works with a doctor who sends his patients to her.

waaaayyyy too expensve for me...........
Posted by Greatcod (Member # 7002) on 24 April, 2007 04:59 PM :

What does the "practice of medicine" in New Jersey consist of, exactly?
Can anyone practice surgery if they have good intentions and a steady hand? The authorities have to set bounderies somewhere.
Posted by TexasChaos (Member # 7465) on 24 April, 2007 06:12 PM :

I find some of these reactions rather humorous.

This does not make her a bad person, and I'm sure she has good intentions. However, it is situations like this that makes it so difficult for our real LLMD's to obtain credibility from outsiders.

Just because I can rewire a light fixture in my bathroom does not mean that I can or should sell myself as an electrical engineer. Nor would any self-respecting homeowner want me to. How is this situation any different? It is FRAUD. Plain and simple, regardless of how wonderful a human being she may be.
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